Is it just me who's a bit annoyed by Brock's MMA style?

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Saylor said:
Quite frankly, the WWE don't care about what you care about. If they see money in something, they'll most defiantly go for it.

+ A small percentage of the whole WWE Universe want to see Brock Lesnar utilize a different set of moves.

+ Implying that Brock Lesnar's gimmick and style isn't ratings.

So, let me get this straight, you was excited when CM Punk dropped the pipebomb speech, right? Yes, of course. It was CM Punks gimmick, so his gimmick did draw.

Did people want Brock Lesnar in the WWE? Yes, why? I think it's because of his recent run in the UFC, so most defiantly he does draw with his gimmick.

Why does wrestling have gimmicks? To draw people to watch it, thus being a draw.

The WWE don't care about what I think? I know that however it's an irrelevant point here as they don't care about any threads made on here.

Who cares if a small percentage want to see it? A small percentage want to see Daniel Bryan say fuck you Vince and kick people's heads in does it make the point it would be cool less valid?

I never said the gimmick didn't draw I said the style of wrestling wasn't the reason people paid to see him, holy twisting terms batman.I'll quote myself here :

"Also the name Brock Lesnar draws not his style, people know wrestling is pre-determined so no way can you say Brock working an MMA style draws"

Notice how it says working an MMA style, why pay to see it re-enacting in the WWE when you can see the real thing in MMA?

I've not critisized his gimmick once, I'm saying his match styles are limited which is a shame for someone of his ability.

I've even praised it for it's intergration between the two.
 

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Kill Seabs Kill said:
Honestly I haven't been really satified with his return, the match with Cena was a good brawl and his match with Trips was well ... dull IMO and I haven't been blown away like a Brock Lesnar match should do, you know?

Totally agree, but thought I was alone in this (and really questioning whether it was him or his opponents). As Crayo said it's kinda cool to see MMA hit pro wrestling, but going for the Kimura constantly and slowing the match with Big Nose down to a screeching halt? Not so much. Vary it up, a lot.

But who knows, he may have had to do this so HHH could keep up.
 
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Totally agree, but thought I was alone in this (and really questioning whether it was him or his opponents). As Crayo said it's kinda cool to see MMA hit pro wrestling, but going for the Kimura constantly and slowing the match with Big Nose down to a screeching halt? Not so much. Vary it up, a lot.

But who knows, he may have had to do this so HHH could keep up.

This is the problem I'm getting at, he's too far in the MMA gimmick with his matches that variety is gone. He's approaching it too much like he's in a fight and not in a storytelling aspect. Going for the kimura in MMA multiple times I can't fault him for it but in something built around building tension and excitement he needs something different. The flow isn't there IMO.
 
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Kill Seabs Kill said:
This is the problem I'm getting at, he's too far in the MMA gimmick with his matches that variety is gone. He's approaching it too much like he's in a fight and not in a storytelling aspect. Going for the kimura in MMA multiple times I can't fault him for it but in something built around building tension and excitement he needs something different. The flow isn't there IMO.

To be fair, him acting like he's in a legitimate fight to the death rather than just a wrestling match is how he should approach it. After dominating the UFC, he looks down on rasslers (kayfabe speaking, though probably realistically speaking as well) and thinks he can easily dominate them just by applying MMA holds. As mentioned, he does still break out the normal wrestling holds though, like german suplexes and the F-5 and stuff.
 

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KLockard23 said:
To be fair, him acting like he's in a legitimate fight to the death rather than just a wrestling match is how he should approach it. After dominating the UFC, he looks down on rasslers (kayfabe speaking, though probably realistically speaking as well) and thinks he can easily dominate them just by applying MMA holds. As mentioned, he does still break out the normal wrestling holds though, like german suplexes and the F-5 and stuff.

From a character stand point you're right however he's not got the balance right yet between character intergration and having a good match sorted yet, it's like Ryback doing his dominating stuff vs Punk at HIAC it fit the character like a glove but the match was poor. Brock isn't that bad but that's the idea I'm attempting to convey here.
 

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I like it, but I would also love to see some more wrasllin' moves. Maybe some Powerbombs, suplexes, belly slams, and such.
 

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It just seems one match (Brock/HHH) isn't enough to make a complete judgement from yet. And I enjoyed the match anyway.

I won't use Brock/Cena as an example because that was hardly a "match", just a complete one-sided beat down. A match that has precise storytelling to it - which is to say a beginning, middle and end - needs to work when there is a balance between both guys. One guy getting owned until he gets in two devastating moves at the end isn't really balance.
 
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Well, I don't really remember how his matches went but yeah, I don't remember seeing lots of different moves there. I'm not particularly a fan of MMA so although it does make sense I wouldn't mind seeing him have a moveset more similar to the one of a pro wrestler.
 
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The fact that they bill him as the former UFC champion and all that palavar has something to do with it I reckon.
 

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Jonathan said:
The fact that they bill him as the former UFC champion and all that palavar has something to do with it I reckon.

Absolutely I'm not hating on the gimmick I like that, he's just not found the range yet and I doubt he will unless he works more matches or they structure the matches a bit better.
 

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Kill Seabs Kill said:
Absolutely I'm not hating on the gimmick I like that, he's just not found the range yet and I doubt he will unless he works more matches or they structure the matches a bit better.

Yeah, his MMA attributes are good but we want to see the Brock of the 2000s, having wrestling matches.

For as long as his matches are based around breaking someone's arm :dawg::dawg: his matches will be MMA-style, unfortunately :damnn:
 
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Brock just annoys me. He just looks like he doesn't care and he's making no effort.
 

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At first I missed the old Brock as well.

But it's his thing/style now, so it grew on me/us, and it fits him.

Like Ryan said, him doing crazy shit in the No Holds Barred match will be epic.