Is it just me who's a bit annoyed by Brock's MMA style?

[seabs]

I re-watched his match with Cena a few days ago and whilst the elbows were great and the kimura is the best submission move in the WWE currently IMO I wish he'd vary it up a bit, he always seems to either shoot in for the double leg or go for the kimura now where as before he'd bust out a lot of suplexs, especially the belly to belly throw he used to use on a regular basis which was a fine execution. I guess I'm wishing he'd utilise more of his amateur background by varying his throws rather than just using his MMA background. Anyone else agree or disagree?

 

[Rysenberg]

I love it. IIRC against Cena he did a few Germans and Belly to bellys did he not? If he has a DQ-on match then yeah, he needs to return to his amateur style, but as long as it's 'no holds barred', he does enough crazy shit to make interesting IMO.

 

[seabs]

Probably he busted out a few but how many times did he shoot in and drop elbows or go for the Kimura for comparison, it was a lot more I'm guessing. It fits from a character stand point sure but why can't he be throwing people around more also? It just seems pretty limiting for a great performer IMO.

 

[Lockard 23]

Just you. :dawg:

 

[Rysenberg]

Probably he busted out a few but how many times did he shoot in and drop elbows or go for the Kimura for comparison, it was a lot more I'm guessing. It fits from a character stand point sure but why can't he be throwing people around more also? It just seems pretty dull IMO.

Against John he was trying to get that move over I think, as he's sort of adopted it as his finisher. And he did enough other things to make the match as awesome as it was, the stairs flying shoulder block and handcuffs spot were especially great.

 

[seabs]

Against John he was trying to get that move over I think, as he's sort of adopted it as his finisher. And he did enough other things to make the match as awesome as it was, the stairs flying shoulder block and handcuffs spot were especially great.

And against Trips? He was barely even working the arm any other way if I remember rightly. I'm a fan of the Cena match but he seems to be really limited now, it's a shame really IMO. It could just be me being strange though.

 

[Crayo]

I'm a fan of it. The draw with Brock is that he was a UFC champion and has returned, so he should keep that MMA style. The sudden switch from badass UFC fighter to organised wrestling spots would be annoying and 'fake' (yeah, ikr), and I think he utilises the stiff MMA style really well.

 

[seabs]

I'm a fan of it. The draw with Brock is that he was a UFC champion and has returned, so he should keep that MMA style. The sudden switch from badass UFC fighter to organised wrestling spots would be annoying and 'fake' (yeah, ikr), and I think he utilises the stiff MMA style really well.

Isn't he also a former WWE champion though, is it not theoretical for him to utilise more pro wrestling moves also? His entire moveset seems to be based around the MMA gimmick, I'm not denying he does it well it just seems awfully 1 dimensional IMO, compare it to his matches with Angle where they'd throw down amateur style but also throw in pro elements to it.

 

[Dat Kid1]

Well I think Lesnar might be rusty with those moves perhaps, which is why he hasn't used them and stuck to a more brute force approach in his matches and it's been working in my opinion. It's not as pretty as amateur, but it's good for who he is and fits perfectly with him.

 

[Crayo]

Isn't he also a former WWE champion though, is it not theoretical for him to utilise more pro wrestling moves also? His entire moveset seems to be based around the MMA gimmick, I'm not denying he does it well it just seems awfully 1 dimensional IMO, compare it to his matches with Angle where they'd throw down amateur style but also throw in pro elements to it.

He is but that's in the distant past now. The reason he is mainstream relevant is because of his MMA run, and how he successfully transformed from a WWE champion to a UFC champion. He still performs some wrestling moves (suplexes, his finisher as well), and I'm actually fine with that. If him being one dimensional led to bad matches I would complain, but I've been satisfied from his matches thus far (the Extreme Rules one especially).

 

[seabs]

He is but that's in the distant past now. The reason he is mainstream relevant is because of his MMA run, and how he successfully transformed from a WWE champion to a UFC champion. He still performs some wrestling moves (suplexes, his finisher as well), and I'm actually fine with that. If him being one dimensional led to bad matches I would complain, but I've been satisfied from his matches thus far (the Extreme Rules one especially).

Honestly I haven't been really satified with his return, the match with Cena was a good brawl and his match with Trips was well ... dull IMO and I haven't been blown away like a Brock Lesnar match should do, you know?

 

[Saylor]

The story behind Brock Lesnar is that he's evolved from the WWE Champion to a UFC Champion. I think people know him as the beast, the guy that made it from wrestling to becoming a historic Champion, but I understand your reasons that he's a former WWE Champion.

I talk about Brock Lesnar to the people I know in real life and they know him as a former UFC Champion rather than the former WWE Champion. This is his gimmick and it links within his past which makes it much, much more believable and realistic to the crowd.

Brock Lesnar in his MMA gimmick is pure ratings, why anyone would change that I do not know.

 

[seabs]

The story behind Brock Lesnar is that he's evolved from the WWE Champion to a UFC Champion. I think people know him as the beast, the guy that made it from wrestling to becoming a historic Champion, but I understand your reasons that he's a former WWE Champion.

I talk about Brock Lesnar to the people I know in real life and they know him as a former UFC Champion rather than the former WWE Champion. This is his gimmick and it links within his past which makes it much, much more believable and realistic to the crowd.

Brock Lesnar in his MMA gimmick is pure ratings, why anyone would change that I do not know.

Implying I care about ratings, this is evaluating his match quality and why I don't see it as being up to par. Also the name Brock Lesnar draws not his style, people know wrestling is pre-determined so no way can you say Brock working an MMA style draws, Brock fighting that way drew not him re-enacting it.

 

[Saylor]

Implying I care about ratings, this is evaluating his match quality and why I don't see it as being up to par. Also the name Brock Lesnar draws not his style, people know wrestling is pre-determined so no way can you say Brock working an MMA style draws, Brock fighting that way drew not him re-enacting it.

Quite frankly, the WWE don't care about what you care about. If they see money in something, they'll most defiantly go for it.

+ A small percentage of the whole WWE Universe want to see Brock Lesnar utilize a different set of moves.

+ Implying that Brock Lesnar's gimmick and style isn't ratings.

So, let me get this straight, you was excited when CM Punk dropped the pipebomb speech, right? Yes, of course. It was CM Punks gimmick, so his gimmick did draw.

Did people want Brock Lesnar in the WWE? Yes, why? I think it's because of his recent run in the UFC, so most defiantly he does draw with his gimmick.

Why does wrestling have gimmicks? To draw people to watch it, thus being a draw.

 

[Nano]

I agree in that he should use more amateur wrestling moves and not only his MMA background, but he could make a mix between those two styles and may be great.