I agree with both of you. But this was actually pre-Survivor Series discussion, it's obvious that there's no point turning him now. For that matter, I'm unsure if turning him heel at SS would've been smart either. He's easily the most over guy on the roster, along with Ambrose.
Plus, with the momentum he's got, WWE should be pushing him into ME, considering what he accomplished at SS... And they're kinda doing the opposite by putting him in a match with Harper for the IC title at TLC. As much as I love Harper and I know Harper/Ziggler is gonna deliver at TLC... Ziggler should've been in a match against Rollins. That's the natural way of booking both DZ and Rollins, considering they were coming off of a compelling ME at SS. But Vince's little poster boy needs to stay relevant, so they put Rollins vs CENAWINSLOL, which is so pointless and the outcome of that match couldn't be more obvious.
- I'm also disappointed that they sold out The Authority at SS, just for free.99