WrestleMania IF WWE Continues To Push The Senior Center...

[Solid Snake]

So this is a topic I spotted that I thought was worth discussing.

If WWE decides to keep pushing part-timers AKA "The Senior Center" or "The Should Have Retired By Nows", how will you feeling going forward??

Wrestlemania marks the end of the season so to speak so it is kind of going to set the stage for what happens this coming RAW and SmackDown year.

I really don't have my hopes up.

 

[Death Walker]

So this is a topic I spotted that I thought was worth discussing.

If WWE decides to keep pushing part-timers AKA "The Senior Center" or "The Should Have Retired By Nows", how will you feeling going forward??

Wrestlemania marks the end of the season so to speak so it is kind of going to set the stage for what happens this coming RAW and SmackDown year.

I really don't have my hopes up.

I could care less as long as it is genuinely entertaining. And that's not to say that some talent don't deserve more opportunities than the veterans but until we get an 80% or more roster of just talented performers then let the seasons guys and girls do their thing.

Look let's be honest before we "poke" at these large rosters, there are other major factors that need to worked on like NEW WRITING TEAMS, BETTER COMMENTATORS, NO AUTHORITY FIGURE GETTING THEMSELVES INVOLVED IN MATCHES (especially if it's just gonna screw the superstars), CREATIVE IDEAS, MAKING SURE LESS TALENTED WRESTLERS IMPROVE IN WEAK AREAS, BETTER SCRIPTS, BETTER BOOKING, LET THE ONES WHO ARE NATURAL WITH PROMOS HAVE SOME FREE RANGE...SOME AND LASTLY CUT ALL THESE LONG HOUR SHOWS/EVENTS. But I'm just saying it's gonna take other changes before we even bother to remove the vets.

 

[Snowman1]

I remember how much I used to passionately hate this, but... It's hard for me to hate on it after WrestleMania 33. When AJ, Seth, and Roman beat Shane, Hunter, and Taker and big wins over legends wound up meaning nothing. Hell if you ask Jacob Fox that show hurt the current roster with Brock's feud with Goldberg.

But hell, I remember looking here at Rumble time that Vince and HHH were at odds over who to put over in the main event, Seth or Drew, and I quickly realized it won't matter.

As much as we hate Lesnar as champ not being there and feel like a full time champ answers our problems, Seth doesn't have Roman's toxicity but does have his other issues... He will be on Raw every week like he has. Facing Corbin, Lashley, McIntyre, Roman, Dean... Balor is a fresh matchup maybe but it feels the same as many other guys. No special matchups, unless there's a shakeup there's no quality PPV opponent except...the senior center, because they're never on TV.

The title reign of a full time guy is practically set up to fail unless they stumble into something drastically different - who would have thought heel Bryan in 2019 would be the answer to SD's side if things, or that him not having fresh opponent's would lead to Kofi Kingston of all people being the top Babyface in WWE - but with Raw I don't see how they can draw interest with a full-time overexposed roster that can't figure out how to get their own stars over besides "let them throw hands with Nia Jax" and "have cancer"

It doesn't matter how many legends they have if they can't get their own guys over.

 

[Jay-Ashley]

The idea of WWE pushing part-timers is beyond stupid because it takes time and even money from other wrestlers who are there full time and busting their ass off while part-timers just half ass do everything. I would rant more about this, but I have done it so much I am tired of it as well as I know a whole lot of people will disagree with me, so eh.

 

[Deadmanforever97]

I only find pushing part timers and Legends necessary if the guys(Full timers) who they're facing at the end of the story benefits from it by beating them

Once your torch(Legacy) becomes ever lasting just pass some of that flame over to the guy who wants to be a Legend as well.

 

[Rosie]

I've said before, but in general, WWE has over-done the concept of a part-timer. I get that having the rare attraction is good to make them feel special but you're always in a quandy of having them win and not give a rub to a young up and comer, or make them keep losing until their rub means nothing. At least Batista's return this year seems to be for him to have closure on his career and he's done well in building the match, but I have very little interest now in seeing Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Triple H and most old timer's Wrestle. Ironically, one of the few legends from the Attitude Era who wrestles sparingly and I still want to see for his rare appearances is Chris Jericho, who is outside of WWE, mainly because he's gone through enough changes and has had good enough matches and storylines where he can still feel fresh.

 

[SWL]

tbr, the majority of this year's Mania card is filled with full time talent. I mean, the main event, which is deemed the most important match on the card, includes 3 women that haven't even been on the main roster for 4 years yet. As it stands, we have 5 part timers on this year's Mania card and I don't really feel like any of them are taking anything away from the full time roster. WWE's not really "pushing" them, but moreso using their star power to boost these types of cards.. and I'm personally not against that at all.

Let's not forget that we, the fans, are the reason why these "old folks" are considered popular enough to be part timers. Vince isn't just booking these guys because they're old, he's booking them because we react well to them. When Goldberg came back, he was the most over guy on the roster. And that's not because the corporate machine demanded it, it's because they tore the roof off the Scotiabank Arena when he beat Lesnar in less than 2 minutes.


As far as pushing part time talent is concerned, Lesnar's the only one who had a legitimate long term push since 2014 and imo he's a prime example of how a top talent should be booked, so I just see him as that.. a well protected and legitimate world champion. Leave it to the IC champion to wrestle every Monday, but the world champion should only wrestle at PPVs. That's for another topic though

 

[Crash]

I say this as a Brock fan, he fucking needs to drop the title.

 

[Jay-Ashley]

I say this as a Brock fan, he fucking needs to drop the title.

Wait Brock has a title?

 

[Crash]

Wait Brock has a title?

yes

 

[Jay-Ashley]

yes

*rates as informative*

 

[Redboy123@]

He majority of tv time is spent on full time talent and the main event of wrestlemania imhas three full time talent. Not really a problem as such. Compare that a few years ago where every wrestlemania main event was part timers

 

[Snowman1]

I've said before, but in general, WWE has over-done the concept of a part-timer. I get that having the rare attraction is good to make them feel special but you're always in a quandy of having them win and not give a rub to a young up and comer, or make them keep losing until their rub means nothing. At least Batista's return this year seems to be for him to have closure on his career and he's done well in building the match, but I have very little interest now in seeing Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Triple H and most old timer's Wrestle. Ironically, one of the few legends from the Attitude Era who wrestles sparingly and I still want to see for his rare appearances is Chris Jericho, who is outside of WWE, mainly because he's gone through enough changes and has had good enough matches and storylines where he can still feel fresh.

It's similar to the Broken Hardys methinks. Or TNA Bully Ray. When you have an old AE relic doing a brand new gimmick, it feels like a brand new character. Much of the problem with the part timers is just "Look! Batista!"

 

[Rosie]

It's similar to the Broken Hardys methinks. Or TNA Bully Ray. When you have an old AE relic doing a brand new gimmick, it feels like a brand new character. Much of the problem with the part timers is just "Look! Batista!"

It's that and a combination of what they do with it. The Hardy's match quality became an unneeded point because they made up for it with being wonky and entertaining. Bully Ray had a killer promo and while he wasn't having technical classics to make Meltzer cream his pants, he could hold his own and play a great villain. Chris Jericho has changed his ring style to be more wild with brawling and only throwing in a couple of his old classics once in a while.

 

[Death Walker]

WWE's not really "pushing" them, but moreso using their star power to boost these types of cards.. and I'm personally not against that at all.

Let's not forget that we, the fans, are the reason why these "old folks" are considered popular enough to be part timers. Vince isn't just booking these guys because they're old, he's booking them because we react well to them. When Goldberg came back, he was the most over guy on the roster. And that's not because the corporate machine demanded it, it's because they tore the roof off the Scotiabank Arena when he beat Lesnar in less than 2 minutes.