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Great One

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Yes, his run in 2008-2009 has been the worst ever, how are you acting like I'm insane for thinking so? You named two matches. The Iron Man match was decent, as far as telling the story went, but how much random bs like shooting pyros did they have to do? Plus I was unable to appreciate the match as much being that it was like their 6th straight one. I'd have to rewatch the Hardy one, as I could actually see that one being decent.
 

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I don't think it was that bad. Believe me, Orton's run in 08-09 by far wasn't great, but it wasn't garbage. His storyline with HHH, although it was repetitive, it was interesting for awhile. As was the stuff with the McMahons. The Kingston program just recently lost heat aswell. Before that it was pretty good. I don't think it was garbage at all. It was decent.
 

Airfixx

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Agreed on that. Anything Orton has been in for the past 3 years has been complete garbage. When was his last good, relatively entertaining match anyways? Kurt Angle?

Well contrary to popular opinion round these parts I think he's had a few sweet matches with HHH... I also recall Orton/Jeff being pretty good + Orton/DiBiase was cool (although not solely from a match point of view). HBK/Orton would have been sweet had it not been for all the shitty stips (AGAIN! i.e. See WM25).

Plus your synopsis is a bit rough seeing as he's barely faced anyone other than Cena, HHH & Big Dayyve in a decent setting during that period.


Orton needs some fresh opponents just as much as, if not more than, Cena.
 

seX-Power

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Orton/Jeff was really underwhelming. To me it was one of those Jericho/Taker or Edge/Christian ZOMGZOMG like feuds, and they wasted it on a throwaway match. Tsk tsk.
 

Airfixx

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^^^Amen!

I don't recall the Orton/Hardy match being particularly throwaway... Wasn't it Jeff's first shot at 'the big one' (not counting the ladder match v Taker in 02)?

Jeff was portrayed to have come real close only to suffer a swift RKO. The story was told, they worked pretty well together.. Granted no 5-star match, but still job done IMO. Wracking my brain... Didn't they have a cage match on Raw at some point around that time too? (I defo remember some kind confrontation between them in or around a cage.)
 

Moonlight Drive

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You might be thinking of the steel cage match he had with Umaga in the build-up, because I can't recall him and Orton in a cage. I could be wrong though.

That match actually had quite a fantastic build, with the whole underdog storyline and of course the huge swanton.
 

seX-Power

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The match for Orton/Hardy didn't live up to the storyline, with that epic Swanton which was the biggest spot on Raw in the past few years imo. The fact that it was simply forgotten about after 4 weeks or so was rather dissappointing, they didn't even have a follow up gimmick match or even a rematch on Raw.
 

Great One

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I don't think it was that bad. Believe me, Orton's run in 08-09 by far wasn't great, but it wasn't garbage. His storyline with HHH, although it was repetitive, it was interesting for awhile. As was the stuff with the McMahons. The Kingston program just recently lost heat aswell. Before that it was pretty good. I don't think it was garbage at all. It was decent.
Those are his programs not matches, which with the exception of HHH/McMahon thing they all sucked as well.
 

MizMasta3000

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Well Orton has changed his in ring style. He went from being more agile doing dropkicks and such to a more smashmouth 'pick-a-part' slow style