if the rock had stayed........

[Zamorakian]

The Rock is a legend no matter what he does the fans would still love him, accept it he was born like this.

 

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The Rock is a legend no matter what he does the fans would still love him, accept it he was born like this.

I take it you've never seen his run as Rocky Maivia? He got Die Rocky Die chants as a babyface. He wasn't born this way at all.

 

[Ghoshlad1989]

Hogan's heel turn was huge but it took another company to do it. Cena seems to be Vince's dream babyface which is why I'm doubting a heel turn. Plus with all the charity work John does aswell. He can't really do that as a heel and no one can really replace him. It's a very complex position.

good point forgot about the charity work if they dont remedy it soon though they will get to a point where cena will be so hated that even if/when he does it will be too late to recover
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I take it you've never seen his run as Rocky Maivia? He got Die Rocky Die chants as a babyface. He wasn't born this way at all.

technically wasnt the rock lmao

 

[Crayo]

The Rock is a legend no matter what he does the fans would still love him, accept it he was born like this.

Not true. They turned on him in the past... the only one who was immune to the fans turning on them was Stone Cold. Rock's heel turn was 100% successful, that's why I think Cena's could be. Punk's already shown he can out-sell Cena in merch. Book Punk well and further progress his merch selling, Cena can still make a LOT of money as a heel. People need to remember that.

I agree though, outside of WWE John's a top requested star for the "make a wish foundation" The only way he could still do that really is if he stayed face but had a massive character change.

 

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technically wasnt the rock lmao

:laugh: technically you're right. How about Summerslam 2002 vs Brock?

 

[Ghoshlad1989]

:laugh: technically you're right. How about Survivor Series 2002 vs Brock?

they didnt hate him they were dissapointed he was leaving for movies hence they turned him heel when he returned

 

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they didnt hate him they were dissapointed he was leaving for movies hence they turned him heel when he returned

Did he get booed as a babyface at Summerslam 2002? How about Wrestlemania 17? Wrestlemania 18? The rock got heat as a babyface multiple time. He's not as bad as Cena but to say he was continually loved is an incorrect statement.

 

[Ghoshlad1989]

Did he get booed as a babyface at Summerslam 2002? How about Wrestlemania 17? Wrestlemania 18? The rock got heat as a babyface multiple time. He's not as bad as Cena but to say he was continually loved is an incorrect statement.

yes but circumstances come into account e.g lesnar he was leaving to do movies was booed. wm 17 was againt austin in texas and wm 18 similar to now only cena is hated and rock is in hogans shoes. i never once said he was loved all the time as a babyface

 

[Crayo]

As I said before, the same sort of treatment has happened to Rock, just not to Cena's extent. Only superstar it hasn't happened to is Stone Cold :S.

 

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yes but circumstances come into account e.g lesnar he was leaving to do movies was booed. wm 17 was againt austin in texas and wm 18 similar to now only cena is hated and rock is in hogans shoes. i never once said he was loved all the time as a babyface

I wasn't actually referring to you originally. I was commenting on this.
Zamorakian Wrote:
The Rock is a legend no matter what he does the fans would still love him, accept it he was born like this.

You then responded to me so I responded back.

 

[JC4Life37]

I doubt he would have still been the top man tbh. A 10 year run as the top babyafce is an unmanagable business model in this century. Look at Cena people turned on him almost instantly. Rock and Cena are more alike then people seem to recognise. Both rely on catch phrases with their promos, both are limited in the ring and they share a great amount of charisma. Rock was cheesey alot of the time also.

So true.

No true bad a** calls himself a people's champion. Yet Rock did this as a heel

Both Rock and Cena want to be loved and catered to fans more than necessary


Flair, Austin, HHH never really gave a crap about being liked.