I love when Randy Orton gets pissed off

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
How is he a natural badass outside the ring? Because he harasses women, is an asshole to fans, and gets discharged from the Marine Corps for going AWOL when he is supposed to be serving?

He's not an asshole to his fans? Why are you collecting the bad side of Orton? He has some good sides too and he really loves his fans, he doesn't harass women and wow the guy was what 18 years old when he served the Marine Corps? He was tired of it and he wasn't able to quit when he wanted to so he did something about it. Dude you should really watch his DVD because that'll explain to you exactly why he went AWOL and why he has anger management issues, you can't judge the book by looking at it's cover.
 

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Is there an ignore feature on this site? No offense but I would really rather not see Zamorakian's posts to be completely honest
 

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Zamorakian said:
He's not an asshole to his fans? Why are you collecting the bad side of Orton? He has some good sides too and he really loves his fans, he doesn't harass women and wow the guy was what 18 years old when he served the Marine Corps? He was tired of it and he wasn't able to quit when he wanted to so he did something about it. Dude you should really watch his DVD because that'll explain to you exactly why he went AWOL and why he has anger management issues, you can't judge the book by looking at it's cover.

I'm neutral on this but there were a lot of rumors of harassment in his earlier years.
Aside from having drinks poured on her while she was sleeping, Amy Weber is telling people that Randy Orton "did something to her", and that is the main reason why she is considering suing WWE.

When Orton first got to WWE, he would show off pictures he took with females who he hooked up with to try to impress the other wrestlers. Management has become concerned with Orton's conduct out of the ring, and some veterans think he is too full of himself and acts way out of line on the road.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/234895-weberwwe-update-randy-orton-involved-in-harassment--more

I can't confirm or deny it but he does have a questionable past. Currently he seems to be a great guy however.
 

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Orton has said himself he was a douche before he settled down after having a kid. Don't see why this debate is happening. There's loads of wrestlers who are absolute assholes.
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Is there an ignore feature on this site? No offense but I would really rather not see Zamorakian's posts to be completely honest

I've done it a few times, so I'm not going to bark about it, but do your research before you post. Orton is 32 right now I believe. He doesn't hate his fans, and he definately doesn't disrespect ladies. His origional video on the titantron, that was all edited, his bad-boy lady-killer act was just part of Kayfabe. He's married now, with a 4 year old daughter. I doubt he's going to be out disrespecting woman now. He definately loves his fans, which is why he does autograph signings, and interviews with the media. Sure, he might like to spend more time with his family, but when you're traveling all over the place every week, wouldn't you feel the same way? All I'm saying is, do your research for him currently, not what he used to be 12 years ago.
 
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I'm neutral on this but there were a lot of rumors of harassment in his earlier years.
Aside from having drinks poured on her while she was sleeping, Amy Weber is telling people that Randy Orton "did something to her", and that is the main reason why she is considering suing WWE.

When Orton first got to WWE, he would show off pictures he took with females who he hooked up with to try to impress the other wrestlers. Management has become concerned with Orton's conduct out of the ring, and some veterans think he is too full of himself and acts way out of line on the road.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/234895-weberwwe-update-randy-orton-involved-in-harassment--more

I can't confirm or deny it but he does have a questionable past. Currently he seems to be a great guy however.

He does have a questionable past but the past is the past and you cannot reverse it, actions have been taken and the damage is done. The guy is a normal person right now and he deserves respect for his hard work instead of looking at his past as a 18 year old going AWOL and stuff.


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I've done it a few times, so I'm not going to bark about it, but do your research before you post. Orton is 32 right now I believe. He doesn't hate his fans, and he definately doesn't disrespect ladies. His origional video on the titantron, that was all edited, his bad-boy lady-killer act was just part of Kayfabe. He's married now, with a 4 year old daughter. I doubt he's going to be out disrespecting woman now. He definately loves his fans, which is why he does autograph signings, and interviews with the media. Sure, he might like to spend more time with his family, but when you're traveling all over the place every week, wouldn't you feel the same way? All I'm saying is, do your research for him currently, not what he used to be 12 years ago.

Don't mind this guy RKO, he's arrogant, dumb, moronic and most of all ignorant he won't seem to see the truth. It wont help explaining to uneducated people like this guy so i'd suggest to just leave him alone with his boyfriend Ziggles 'The real best wrestler in the world and the SHOULD-Be main-eventer.'
 

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Zamorakian said:
He does have a questionable past but the past is the past and you cannot reverse it, actions have been taken and the damage is done. The guy is a normal person right now and he deserves respect for his hard work instead of looking at his past as a 18 year old going AWOL and stuff.

He does seem to be a great guy after his daughter was born but people will judge him on his past. It's the way things work.
 

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So he used to be an asshole, and now he's a polite family man now? Still not a badass
 

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Crayo said:
Where has polite debating gone? Lighten up people.

There's no polite debating when arrogant people like Ziggler joins, it doesn't matter if you bring up facts to him or do research for him but Mr.Crackhead must still have the correct answer and therefore cry like a baby and ignore a user because of his truthful post. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: Sir i have a headache
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
So he used to be an asshole, and now he's a polite family man now? Still not a badass

Badass meaning he does a lot of good for the WWE, fans, family, and like Cena, he does a lot for thre Make-A-Wish foundation as well. It kind of irritates me when people start talking about people, and bagging on them when they don't know the half of it. Orton used to be a complete dick...12 years ago.. Now look where he is at. Look at Cena, Cena used to be a dick in real life to before he started wrestiling outside of WWE. He grew up pretty much on the streets. Now look where he is, he's one of the most liked celebrities of all time for what he does for the children, the business, and everyone else. You can't judge someone from their past, it just wouldn't be right. People do have the ability to change you know... It's just whether they have the heart to do it or not.
 
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So it started off he was a badass in the sense that he was the same outside of the ring as he was kayfabe wise.. and now he's a badass because he's a changed man and works with make a wish?

I'd love to get the point you are trying to make but it keeps changing
 

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He does seem to be a great guy after his daughter was born but people will judge him on his past. It's the way things work.

It doesn't work like that and it just isn't right to judge someone from the past, put yourself in his shoes and say you raped a woman like 20 years ago and today you donate millions of dollars to charity, you help poor children, you adopt homeless kids, you take care of your family etc

How would it feel to have people insulting your ass just because of your '20 years' long past? I'm not saying Orton is doing all that but he is doing alot such as Make-A-Wish Foundations, he meets people who knows that they have less than a few weeks left and he puts a smile on their face because that smile means that it means everything to this kid that he gets to meet his favorite before he dies. He takes good care of his family he has a young daughter which he treats very well, he's also 'living in the streets' which means that he's travelling all day and having less time to meet his daughter and all of that just because he can buy his daughter and his wife the best that they can have, he doesn't just do this because he likes it he does it for his family.

It just isn't right to treat someone badly and insult him just because of his past. Forget the past and think about the future.