I can't even begin to explain the levels of butt hurt.. .

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Pretty sure I said this will happen two SmackDown's ago. I'm surprised you're surprised.

OK Lockard, great call. I also called it a long time ago but didn't feel the need to include it nor did it curb my level of butt hurt.
 

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Your thread has come off as if you're shocked. Why didn't you make this rant two weeks ago lol?

Of course it sucks. It's pathetic that Ziggler is even in this feud right now without a title around his waste, yet ADR is going up against whoever the fuck he's facing for the WHC (RVD is it?).
 

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Your thread has come off as if you're shocked. Why didn't you make this rant two weeks ago lol?

Of course it sucks. It's pathetic that Ziggler is even in this feud right now without a title around his waste, yet ADR is going up against whoever the fuck he's facing for the WHC (RVD is it?).


Two weeks ago it was still in the balance. I knew this match was a possibility, but I was hoping for the best, while obviously expecting the worst. When I read about Layla turning on Kaitlyn that seemed like a way for WWE to NOT do this stupid ass match, so I was reserving judgement. I thought you of all assholes would be proud of me for trying to stay optimistic until finally it has become obvious that we are going to get shit on.
 

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Well, if I knew that, I'd have been overflowing with proud juice. Well done, Dolph.

Layla's heel turn had to be the most random and pointless thing ever. Kinda' sums up the divas division.
 

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I don't have an issue here. I might have preferred seeing them in two separate matches, but it's no big deal to me to see both feuds/matches thrown into one either. Weren't people complaining about Ziggler versus Langston beforehand anyway? If Ziggler is gonna be stuck in a break up feud with Langston and AJ as it is at this moment, then no harm to me in combining both rivalries into a mixed tag team match.

As long as this isn't a sign that Ziggler is being paired with Katilyn permanently, then I don't mind them teaming together for just one night. And even though Ziggler will have to share ring time with Katilyn, the match can last a good 10-12 minutes at least and he can still get plenty of time to steal the show, as I don't think he has to worry about Katilyn or AJ overshadowing him in terms of ring work or athleticism.

You are fucking dumb if this isn't you trying to play devils advocate. gtfo with this shit
 

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How does this make sense? Why would selfish showoff Ziggler care about the beef of AJ/Kaitlyn enough to ruin his spotlight to "steal the show"? I hate how faces suddenly change everything about their personalities. This sucks Kevin, I have no idea how you're fine with it lol.
 
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This is a filler match AT BEST, a way to get both groups on the mat at one time, and it fucks up both Big E AND especially DZ's run vs each other. What bothers me is this means that when AJ pins Kaitlyn, we have to wait for a whole month longer to see big e vs ziggler. That is what i see happening. Keeping zig out of the title scene, they will be putting someone else in his place, and this is the shit we are left with. Fuck that.
 

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Christian will take the WHC off of ADR, so that Damien Sandow can eventually cash in on him (I don't think they've actually stripped Sandow of his title shot). This will lead to a feud between Sandow and Ziggler. Until then, Ziggler's got to have something to do. Add to that, WWE is worried about Ziggler for the same reason that coaches get worried when a player gets hurt. Even when he comes back, is he the same? Maybe, maybe not. Ziggler's looked good, but they're playing back and seeing how he handles this feud (which, by the way, is also being used to get Langston over as a serious player in WWE). From their perspective, they gave him his shot and he got hurt and was off TV for a month. Sure, it wasn't his fault (wasn't actually ADR's either; it was just an accident), but some players are "snake-bit". So are some wrestlers. They want to make sure that Ziggler isn't.

He'll be back in the main event scene (or wherever in the show the WHC guys are considered to be; upper mid-card, I'd say) by the Rumble. In fact, I think he's got an outside shot of winning it.

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I'm not a big fan of this match either. Ziggler going over E and finishing this feud once and for all would be better.
 

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Christian will take the WHC off of ADR, so that Damien Sandow can eventually cash in on him (I don't think they've actually stripped Sandow of his title shot). This will lead to a feud between Sandow and Ziggler. Until then, Ziggler's got to have something to do. Add to that, WWE is worried about Ziggler for the same reason that coaches get worried when a player gets hurt. Even when he comes back, is he the same? Maybe, maybe not. Ziggler's looked good, but they're playing back and seeing how he handles this feud (which, by the way, is also being used to get Langston over as a serious player in WWE). From their perspective, they gave him his shot and he got hurt and was off TV for a month. Sure, it wasn't his fault (wasn't actually ADR's either; it was just an accident), but some players are "snake-bit". So are some wrestlers. They want to make sure that Ziggler isn't.

He'll be back in the main event scene (or wherever in the show the WHC guys are considered to be; upper mid-card, I'd say) by the Rumble. In fact, I think he's got an outside shot of winning it.

wk

Ziggler was on fire with the crowd and had gobs of momentum following an amazingly executed double turn, and I'm supposed to think it's cool that he might somehow find his way back into the WHC scene 6 months later? Fuck that man .
 

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Ziggler was on fire with the crowd and had gobs of momentum following an amazingly executed double turn, and I'm supposed to think it's cool that he might somehow find his way back into the WHC scene 6 months later? Fuck that man .


Didn't say you should think it's cool. I just suggested that might very well be what they're thinking. And that he will be back in the scene, because they'll realize he's not.

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Didn't say you should think it's cool. I just suggested that might very well be what they're thinking. And that he will be back in the scene, because they'll realize he's not.

wk


WWE has to be the absolute god to honest's worst company ever at striking when the iron is hot.

Instead of getting hot and then getting pushed you have to get hot, get fucked around by booking, be left off tv, have them try to bury you and THEN they eventually get around to pushing the people who get themselves over.

Same type of shit DB had to go through before he got to where he should be.

Glad you are back btw bro. Don't leave us
 

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WWE has to be the absolute god to honest's worst company ever at striking when the iron is hot.

Instead of getting hot and then getting pushed you have to get hot, get fucked around by booking, be left off tv, have them try to bury you and THEN they eventually get around to pushing the people who get themselves over.

Same type of shit DB had to go through before he got to where he should be.

Glad you are back btw bro. Don't leave us


I get your point and I share your opinion, to a large extent. I wish DZ was going against ADR for the WHC at SummerSlam (even though I'm a huge Christian fan and am very happy he's getting "one more match"). I'm not sure what Creative was thinking taking him away from the WHC feud to put him in this craptasticity that is the Ziggler/Kaitlyn-Langston/AJ mess. Their thought may very well be to see if he can carry a feud with a mainly-untried guy, especially with such a guy who's much larger than he is (which, due to Ziggler's size, he'll probably have to do in the main event scene going forward). Still, I do want him back for a longer WHC reign that allows him to showcase what he can do. I believe Ziggler's a big part of the future of WWE and I firmly believe that he will be a multi-time WWE Champion before he hangs up his boots.

BTW, glad to be back. I've missed you guys.

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Christian will take the WHC off of ADR, so that Damien Sandow can eventually cash in on him (I don't think they've actually stripped Sandow of his title shot). This will lead to a feud between Sandow and Ziggler. Until then, Ziggler's got to have something to do. Add to that, WWE is worried about Ziggler for the same reason that coaches get worried when a player gets hurt. Even when he comes back, is he the same? Maybe, maybe not. Ziggler's looked good, but they're playing back and seeing how he handles this feud (which, by the way, is also being used to get Langston over as a serious player in WWE). From their perspective, they gave him his shot and he got hurt and was off TV for a month. Sure, it wasn't his fault (wasn't actually ADR's either; it was just an accident), but some players are "snake-bit". So are some wrestlers. They want to make sure that Ziggler isn't.

He'll be back in the main event scene (or wherever in the show the WHC guys are considered to be; upper mid-card, I'd say) by the Rumble. In fact, I think he's got an outside shot of winning it.

wk

Hey, just for fun, what would you do with DZ to keep him relevant until the Rumble in this fantasy-booked scenario?