Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, Good or Bad for TNA?

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Hogan and Bischoff in TNA: Good or Bad?

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I think that everything that has needed to be said has already been said. TNA is at it's lowest point in the entire 8 year existince, not only ratings wise but just quality wise also. Honestly I think that Bischoff could be a decent booker if he had someone to run his ideas through, same with Russo but when you put those two in charge you get shit like OJ's angle.

TNA has a few bright spots, Pope, Wolfe, RVD, Hardy are a few. Personally I do not hate the Flair being AJ's mentor angle nearly as much as some of you do. I am not a fan of it but it's atleast giving him some sort of character. Is it a good character? No, but it's clear that TNA is grooming AJ to be the franchise, which from a in-ring standpoint is great. But even as a hardcore AJ Styles fan I know he is dull as fuck. Perhaps Ric Flair could potentially teach him a thing or two about what CHARISMA is.
 

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If its comic book storylines then Samoa Joe = Elektra. I'll bet they follow that storyline & have him resurrected in a new gimmick, like Elektra. The Abyss angle is if a blueberry was given a green lantern ring. AJ Styles doesn't need a Flair Jr gimmick, his talent should be an example of why he is champ. I don't think Hogan is a businessman, he's just doing cronyism just like every US politician does. Hall shouldn't be in a ring, he has trouble performing the Outsider Edge & gets winded standing on the ring apron. If all the non-Hogan hired backstage talent walked, Hogan would just hire a bunch more guys who lick his ass. We could be subject to Grandmaster Sexay & Rikishi matches.


I'm still trying to understand why they felt AJ needed a change. It's not like he needed it at all, he was doing amazing just the way he was. This Flair attitude he has will probably end up killing him.....at least a bit. I dislike his new gimmick and I'm sure a lot of other people do as well.
 

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Bad.

If you want to watch senior men act like children, watch TNA.

Ric Flair seriously needs to calm his old ass down in his promos. I used to enjoy Ric Flair's insane ways, but ever since he came to TNA, much like Anderson, his promos are not realistic. Just now..."These two badasses behind me! Woo! Beer Money! Beer Money are badasses! They look...BADASS! Woo!"

WTF Ric, stop trying you might actually not suck.
 

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Honestly the only part of the Flair/AJ angle I don't like is that they turned AJ into his carbon copy. If he would just have managed him and been some what of a mentor to him it could have imo been pretty awesome. But the fact that he has been turned into Lil' Naitch has made AJ just seem like a little bitch tbh.
 

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I think that everything that has needed to be said has already been said. TNA is at it's lowest point in the entire 8 year existince, not only ratings wise but just quality wise also. Honestly I think that Bischoff could be a decent booker if he had someone to run his ideas through, same with Russo but when you put those two in charge you get shit like OJ's angle.

TNA has a few bright spots, Pope, Wolfe, RVD, Hardy are a few. Personally I do not hate the Flair being AJ's mentor angle nearly as much as some of you do. I am not a fan of it but it's atleast giving him some sort of character. Is it a good character? No, but it's clear that TNA is grooming AJ to be the franchise, which from a in-ring standpoint is great. But even as a hardcore AJ Styles fan I know he is dull as fuck. Perhaps Ric Flair could potentially teach him a thing or two about what CHARISMA is.

I've always had the opinion you can't teach charisma. You either have it or you don't. You're naturally entertaining or you're not. Obviously if you're not charismatic, you need to be smart enough to get around this (Undertaker).
 
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I have a couple of thoughts here. Less than one year, shit, less than six months and everyone is ready to wash their hands of the whole thing. While I agree that there are struggles in the story level I just don't think it's that bad. I agree that Pope should be cutting promos at the beginning of most shows.

I just can't wrap my head around why so many want TNA to fail. That would create another era of boredom. I guess I'm just a biased TNA fan.
 
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I've always had the opinion you can't teach charisma. You either have it or you don't. You're naturally entertaining or you're not. Obviously if you're not charismatic, you need to be smart enough to get around this (Undertaker).

I disagree. Look at Eddie Guerrero at the start of his career, then compare it to the end. Charisma in wrestling comes with things like mannerisms, expressions and all of that type of ish, not just a natural charisma. Sure, that charisma helps, but people who don't have it as naturally can learn.
 

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There is always a possibility that charisma is always there, but you just haven't reached into it for whatever reason. Character restrictions, what the booker wants you to do, etc etc.
 

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I just can't wrap my head around why so many want TNA to fail. That would create another era of boredom. I guess I'm just a biased TNA fan.

I don't WANT TNA to fail but at the rate they are going I wouldn't be suprised if within 5 years they are in a similar state of wCw in it's final years. They are trying to much to quick. Bischoff gets to much credit for what he did in wCw. The only thing imo he did was create the nWo, which honestly after a while got boring and out of hand, I mean Stevie Ray? Scott Norton? Seriously? After that he just coasted. Hell watch the Rise and Fall of wCw DVD and you can see taht he really did more to hurt them then help them in the long run. He honestly is one of the most big headed names in the wrestling buisness, next to Hogan and Rusoo. A coincidence maybe?

I honestly used to be a huge TNA mark. For the first few years I honesty preferred it to the WWE. But when they started bringing in old wCw guys and WWE rejects is when things started to go downhill. Other then Angle and Christian (who I honestly look at as more of a TNA guy then a WWE one) how many of the old WWE/wCw guys did anything to help TNA? What they need to do is cut the roster in half and build around the guys I mentioned before.
 
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I don't WANT TNA to fail but at the rate they are going I wouldn't be suprised if within 5 years they are in a similar state of wCw in it's final years. They are trying to much to quick. Bischoff gets to much credit for what he did in wCw. The only thing imo he did was create the nWo, which honestly after a while got boring and out of hand, I mean Stevie Ray? Scott Norton? Seriously? After that he just coasted. Hell watch the Rise and Fall of wCw DVD and you can see taht he really did more to hurt them then help them in the long run. He honestly is one of the most big headed names in the wrestling buisness, next to Hogan and Rusoo. A coincidence maybe?.

Give Bischoff a little more credit. He brought tapings to MGM studios and saved WCW millions of dollars and helped them turn a profit. He and Flair helped bring in Hogan which was a big step up. He also created the live Monday night wrestling show. It was his idea to use the quick edit nwo promos that a lot, A LOT, of vloggers use now.

Everything else you said is true. The Instant Classic returned to WWE not Captain Charisma.