WrestleMania How is WM 33 looking to you, as of right now?

[Crithu]

 

[Solid Snake]

In theory though, this should be the right way to use them. The Lesnar-Goldberg marquee will draw eyeballs... Maybe... And then the next two biggest matches are Undertaker and Triple H laying their asses down for Roman and Seth. So the extra viewers get to see the current guys defeating legends...

Solidus said that they did this because they draw and I agree but they don't need the title to draw. I mean unless they plan on Brock winning it and being a regular till next wrestlemania then having him put someone over in a big way, I think it stinks!

 

[¡Tranquilo!]

Aside from the Smackdown Contributions the show sounds like a train wreck I'm willing to spend $9.99 on.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Doesn't look that promising on the RAW side of things, aside from HHH/Rollins. Reigns/Taker is fine, but Reigns should be the heel here in order for this to really work.

The A show, SmackDown, is looking fine.

If Mania sucks, I'll probably stop watching RAW and stick to watching SmackDown and PPVs only. RAW is just not worth it anymore.

 

[Snowman1]

Solidus said that they did this because they draw and I agree but they don't need the title to draw. I mean unless they plan on Brock winning it and being a regular till next wrestlemania then having him put someone over in a big way, I think it stinks!

Totally agree. 100%.

Buyrate-wise having the belt on Goldberg here accomplishes absolutely nothing. Lesnar vs Goldberg could draw without it, possibly draw the same buyrate! There's no way to know, but having Jericho vs Owens for the Universal Title is a much bigger deal than for the US! It highlights those guys as the top guys for those who don't know the storyline, and Owens can be the third guy on this card to pin a Legend in a high-profile match.

Then you add in the post-Mania period, and... Someone will have to carry the brand. If... Say, Extreme Rules is the next PPV, either Lesnar/Goldberg will drop the belt there as they hotshot the belt on a current guy - sigh, Roman- or you have no title match. What's going to be the main event? When Lesnar had the belt the first time you had a hot angle with Ambrose raging against the Authority after the Shield breakup. Most compelling angle going into WM for Raw is Rusev vs a pair of scissors.

 

[Jacob Fox]

I don't think that it looks that bad to be honest.

In regards to the Lesnar/Goldberg match, I think WWE's reasoning for putting the belt on Goldberg is pretty sound. Yeah, the match doesn't need the belt in order to draw. But the match could use the belt to get a little bit of bragging rights back to Lesnar. For example, Lesnar has been beaten twice by Goldberg, once in 86 seconds. But if Lesnar beats Goldberg for the title, then Lesnar won the match that mattered the most. World title matches are always viewed by them as being more important.

Secondly, this is Goldberg's third world title reign. No one has ever defeated Goldberg cleanly for a world title. Kevin Nash used a cattle prod to beat him for the WCW title. Triple H had Evolution interfere in order to beat him for the WHC. If Lesnar wins cleanly against Goldberg, he'll be the only one to take the world title from him cleanly. Perhaps they think these two things would, in some way, make up for the previous losses and Royal Rumble elimination.

Apart from that, I think whatever match is for the WWE Championship looks like it's going to be good. I want to see KO vs Y2J. Sure, it would have meant more for the Universal title, but there was no way Jericho was going to win that anyway. So I am looking forward to the match. If Rollins and HHH actually happens, I know I'll enjoy that. I don't care much about Reigns but I'm happy as hell he is not in the main event.

So, honestly, I am not as down on it as many seem to be.

 

[Rosie]

I don't think that it looks that bad to be honest.

In regards to the Lesnar/Goldberg match, I think WWE's reasoning for putting the belt on Goldberg is pretty sound. Yeah, the match doesn't need the belt in order to draw. But the match could use the belt to get a little bit of bragging rights back to Lesnar. For example, Lesnar has been beaten twice by Goldberg, once in 86 seconds. But if Lesnar beats Goldberg for the title, then Lesnar won the match that mattered the most. World title matches are always viewed by them as being more important.

Secondly, this is Goldberg's third world title reign. No one has ever defeated Goldberg cleanly for a world title. Kevin Nash used a cattle prod to beat him for the WCW title. Triple H had Evolution interfere in order to beat him for the WHC. If Lesnar wins cleanly against Goldberg, he'll be the only one to take the world title from him cleanly. Perhaps they think these two things would, in some way, make up for the previous losses and Royal Rumble elimination.

Apart from that, I think whatever match is for the WWE Championship looks like it's going to be good. I want to see KO vs Y2J. Sure, it would have meant more for the Universal title, but there was no way Jericho was going to win that anyway. So I am looking forward to the match. If Rollins and HHH actually happens, I know I'll enjoy that. I don't care much about Reigns but I'm happy as hell he is not in the main event.

So, honestly, I am not as down on it as many seem to be.

I will respond to this with a question. Does Brock Lesnar really need it? You know, the guy who killed the Streak, with the exception of Goldberg, hasn't been beat since WM 29 almost four years ago?

 

[Jacob Fox]

I will respond to this with a question. Does Brock Lesnar really need it? You know, the guy who killed the Streak, with the exception of Goldberg, hasn't been beat since WM 29 almost four years ago?

I'm not saying I agree with it. I was only saying that is probably the way they are thinking about it.

But to answer your question, yeah maybe he does. After that match at Survivor Series and that Rumble elimination, maybe he does.

And he hasn't been beaten "cleanly" in four years other than Goldberg. He did lose to Undertaker... but I don't think that matters as much, I am just being an ass by pointing it out

 

[Rosie]

I'm not saying I agree with it. I was only saying that is probably the way they are thinking about it.

But to answer your question, yeah maybe he does. After that match at Survivor Series and that Rumble elimination, maybe he does.

And he hasn't been beaten "cleanly" in four years other than Goldberg. He did lose to Undertaker... but I don't think that matters as much, I am just being an ass by pointing it out

For him needing it, even with the whole "Goldberg squashed him" thing, he shouldn't need it. He's Brock Lesnar! He eats puppies for Breakfast! He doesn't really need the belt, he can just go to Wrestlemania, finally get the monkey off his back and beat Goldberg and brag about it. Also his lost to Taker did involve a hit to the groin and a screwy finish...

So yeah....BORK DOESN'T NEED TITLE! derp:

 

[Jacob Fox]

For him needing it, even with the whole "Goldberg squashed him" thing, he shouldn't need it. He's Brock Lesnar! He eats puppies for Breakfast! He doesn't really need the belt, he can just go to Wrestlemania, finally get the monkey off his back and beat Goldberg and brag about it. Also his lost to Taker did involve a hit to the groin and a screwy finish...

So yeah....BORK DOESN'T NEED TITLE! derp:

Possibly not, but honestly, with a lot of the comments I've seen on a lot of news sites, some people felt Lesnar really did lose a lot due to that match. So obviously, there are SOME people out there who think that he might need it. I don't. You obviously don't. But there are people who seem like they think he might. Even now, three months later, I see comments all the time about that match having made Lesnar a joke. A ridiculous sentiment, I admit, but it is a sentiment that is out there nonetheless. So perhaps for those people, this will add something back. Perhaps it won't.

Now, I wouldn't have done it if I were in charge. I would have much rather kept the belt on Owens and had him and Jericho fight for the belt. So I am not trying to rationalize this through my own perception. I'm just trying to provide an opposite perspective that seems to exist.

 

[WholeFN'Moe]

Looks like dog shit

KO vs Jericho.... Only thing worth watching.

And it should have been the main event for the Universal Title.

 

[Solid Snake]

Looks like dog shit

KO vs Jericho.... Only thing worth watching.

And it should have been the main event for the Universal Title.

Your posting has been so colorful lately :kitler:

I think Bray vs Orton will be good. I have no issue with that match either. I feel that it SHOULD main event over Brock and that old fart what's his name.

 

[Solid Snake]

I am still disappointed in the show as a whole but if they manage to make it good, hats off to them but other than a few matches being good - the story lines leading up to them have been lack luster.

 

[WholeFN'Moe]

Your posting has been so colorful lately :kitler:

Why thank you Nyan Cat, I try

I think Bray vs Orton will be good. I have no issue with that match either. I feel that it SHOULD main event over Brock and that old fart what's his name.

That will be an ok match but Vince probably won't let it end the way it should... Also as much as I love Orton, he didn't need that Rumble win.

The RR winner should headline WM for the Title, always. Jericho should have won that RR & then headlined WM with Owens for the Title. Goldberg Vs Lesnar III was a great build before they ruined it, the Title adds NOTHING to that match.

AJ shouldn't have been stuck with somebody like Shane while Roman gets one of the 3 big matches.... It's BS. Should be AJ, Cena, Angle, Sting ANYBODY but Roman VS Taker....

Then Shane Vs Ambrose instead in a Hardcore match, maybe even bring the belt back. Roman could have faced Cena instead to see who the big dawg really is & one of them could go heel or Cena could just take his spot back & kill off the Roman character all together.

They screwed Shaq around until they lost his big name, it would have been easier just to make him a referee & count the 3 on Big Show so that Strowman can go over.

So many different ways they could have went with all of the guys but it's like they pick the worst angles on purpose and only concentrate on Roman.

 

[Roi]

Looks like a bunch of mediocre matches. I will check the show to see the crowd reaction, mainly.