Hell in a Cell 2010 Thread

[straight_edge76]

I didn't see a thread so I though I'd make one....

Confirmed matches so far:
WWE Championship match: Randy Orton (C) VS Sheamus
John Cena VS Wade Barrett

discuss..

 

[imported_Adam]

Im pretty sure I read about more being confirmed. I think you should have waited a while to post this until there is more matches announced, but then again, HIAC is in only two weeks. So not sure. Usually when I see a thread started by you or Pumpt or Montana I go to myself "This is gonna be a good thread, he always posts good." This one kinda dissapointed just because you didn't even predict anything .

As far as Cena vs. Nexus goes, in my eyes, its a lose-lose situation.

If Cena wins, Nexus is gone, and that is no good. Atleast not now. And Cena gets more cockiness and super hero powers. BOO!

If Barrett wins, Cena joins Nexus. On top of them being the top two air-time hogs and that would just enable Cena for more airtime, it would take away from the whole "Loyalty" thing, if that wasn't finished once they kicked Young out. Also, I recall Nexus saying Cena wasn't in the big picture, so why do they want him to join?.... On top of that, I think Cena just wouldn't mix with Nexus, like when Christian was forced to join MEM in TNA. That didn't end well. For Christian. (Sigh). I'd love for Cena to join Nexus and end up the same way Christian did in TNA, supposedly "injured" but we all know that is never going to happen.

 

[Colin Gimp]

fuck me night of champions just happened and now they're having another PPV in two weeks? Who pays to watch this shit all the time? How can these kids follow wrestling week to week. It;s the big matches that draw you in and keep watching. Raw matches have always been bad and predictable. they'res no fucking way that parents are going to afford all these PPVS. but but it's hell in the cell! Hell in the cell is lackluster as of late the company jumped the shark a long time ago with that match. Armageddon hell in a cell and before that it was taker/foley. Last recent hell in the cell match i actually remember is when DX broke a sledgehammer on the back of Vince's neck, and they barely even used the enviroment. With all the matches being in Hell in the Cell it's going to be played out by the time it gets to the main event. Even if they each have their own special interaction with the cell, it's not fucking enuff god damnit. If I want more, then i;m sure the kids are going to want more. the most innovative action we're going to see is Nexus beating the ref up and getting in the cell. Other then that it's going to be face rubbing.

I just don't see how the hell in the cell will sell itself. Parents will be able to clue in, and the kids will feel ripped off at the end of the night. Overall this is bad for buisness imo

 

[imported_Adam]

^Im guessing WWE is just interested in making the quick buck off this PPV with throwing a few nice sounding matches in early. They care about what the fans think about as much as they care about how good the wrestlers/"Divas" are.

 

[...god...]

Quite possibly could be worse than last year's HIAT, and could be Kane's last match. Yay, another HIAT where the cage gets touched a whole one time during the match. Such a joke now, like the WWE.

 

[imported_Adam]

HIAT? Think you mean HIAC. What makes you think it could be Kane's last match?

 

[The Small Show]

I am unbelivably excited about this show. Looks like there's going to be two exciting fantastic HIAC matches and one great match between Wade and Cena.

Randy Orton (C) VS Sheamus

I honestly expect this to be quite awesome. With Ortons viper-like style and Sheamus with his agressive nature, when you add the Cell, how can you not think this will be brutal and enjoyable? I really can't wait.

John Cena VS Wade Barrett

So much is riding on this match, to be honest. The future of WWE, Cena, Raw and Nexus are involved. I don't think Cena will be apart of the Nexus, but it sure will be interesting to see what happens to Gabriel, Wade and Heath afterwards.

 

[monkeystyle]

John, change your name to Mark please.

 

[Montana]

I've always been a fan of the HIAC matches, so ppv should be decent just based on that fact.

Shaemus vs Orton is a solid rematch. It's too bad i don't think Shaemus is completely over, now that he doesn't have the belt, so it will be interesting to see what he does from now to Mania. Dare I say something meaningless, like a MITB match or Tag match at WM???

Cena vs. Wade Barrett...I like the match, however they could have held this stipulation off till survivor series. I def. think the crowd is really going to be into this match. Maybe we will even see a drop kick again by Cena.

As far as undercard, i'd have to imagine it would be similar to the last PPV. And i agree it's pointless to have PPV's back to back like this. The value just isn't there with WWE PPV's anymore.

 

[straight_edge76]

Other than the three main event type matches (Sheamus/Orton, Kane/Taker and Barrett/Cena) I think the undercard could be pretty decent, we could get MVP/Swagger, Del Rio/Christian (personally I would love this) and maybe Miz/Bryan in a blowoff match or a Drew-Cody/Harts match. Nothing spectacular, but solid imo.

 

[Beer]

G1, Monk and Axis, up for watching this on stream with me? for old times sake?

 

[Axis]

No fucking way that Orton/Sheamus has reached HIAC status in their feud. These gimmick PPVs are so absurd in the way that they try to force feuds to become things that they are not. Adam don't respond to this post, I'd like to see if you're physically able.

 

[imported_Adam]

^How has the Sheamus and Orton feud not reached HIAC status? They've been at it ever since Cena first lost the title to Sheamus at Fatal 4 Way and Cena dropped off the mat to feud with Nexus. (I know he got a rematch, but still) Randy Orton has been so built up since then on beating down Sheamus, he does it practically every RAW and he took Sheamus' title in a 6 pack challenge. So how has it not reached HIAC status?

 

[Axis]

^How has the Sheamus and Orton feud not reached HIAC status? They've been at it ever since Cena first lost the title to Sheamus at Fatal 4 Way and Cena dropped off the mat to feud with Nexus. (I know he got a rematch, but still) Randy Orton has been so built up since then on beating down Sheamus, he does it practically every RAW and he took Sheamus' title in a 6 pack challenge. So how has it not reached HIAC status?

Okay, so you can't do it.

It's just piss poor storytelling. It's a typical case of booking a feud like an 8-year-old would on Smackdown vs Raw. First a regular match, then a hardcore match, then a cage match, then a ladder match, then a HELL IN A CELL~! Tell me, WHY should Sheamus/Orton be in a Hell in a Cell? When have they ever been super violent with each other? Does either of them have a history in HIAC, and wanted an advantage of the other? It's pathetic and lazy storytelling.

Look at an example of good storytelling: the CM Punk vs William Regal in early 2009 for the IC Title. Their first match ended when Regal was DQed, so he kept the title. The stipulation was added that if Regal got DQed, he would lose the title. That stipulation made sense given the circumstances. In the next match Regal faked being low blowed and got Punk DQed, so Punk still didn't get the title. So the stipulation of No DQ was added for their next match. That made sense, given the circumstances. In the No DQ match, Punk final won the title because the playing field was even, and the logical storytelling led to a great moment of Punk overcoming the evil champion in his hometown of Chicago. Those gimmick matches made sense.

Or how about cage matches? Big Show vs JBL at No Way Out 2005 was made a barbed-wire cage match because JBL's Cabinet kept interfering, and this kept them out. The gimmick responded specifically to the story being told. Orton vs Sheamus does no such thing.

 

[Montana]

Okay, so you can't do it.

It's just piss poor storytelling. It's a typical case of booking a feud like an 8-year-old would on Smackdown vs Raw. First a regular match, then a hardcore match, then a cage match, then a ladder match, then a HELL IN A CELL~! Tell me, WHY should Sheamus/Orton be in a Hell in a Cell? When have they ever been super violent with each other? Does either of them have a history in HIAC, and wanted an advantage of the other? It's pathetic and lazy storytelling.

Look at an example of good storytelling: the CM Punk vs William Regal in early 2009 for the IC Title. Their first match ended when Regal was DQed, so he kept the title. The stipulation was added that if Regal got DQed, he would lose the title. That stipulation made sense given the circumstances. In the next match Regal faked being low blowed and got Punk DQed, so Punk still didn't get the title. So the stipulation of No DQ was added for their next match. That made sense, given the circumstances. In the No DQ match, Punk final won the title because the playing field was even, and the logical storytelling led to a great moment of Punk overcoming the evil champion in his hometown of Chicago. Those gimmick matches made sense.

Or how about cage matches? Big Show vs JBL at No Way Out 2005 was made a barbed-wire cage match because JBL's Cabinet kept interfering, and this kept them out. The gimmick responded specifically to the story being told. Orton vs Sheamus does not such thing.

You hit the nail on the head there. Exactly, the fued just hasn't been built up enough to reach HIAC status. In the past, the HIAC was a HUGE big blowoff match. If you win HIAC, you win the fued basically. Now with the addition of HIAC as a PPV, the WWE said screw the big buildup (which is what made the HIAC match special in the past) and we will sell out our product for a few more PPV buys. In reality, they are turning away more fans, to make a quick buck. Too great examples with Punk/Regal, and Big SHow/Jbl.

I think the only fued at the moment that is HIAC worthy would be Nexus vs. Team Cena. I think if they would have set things up corrently , they could have had a GREAT war games like match at Survivor Series. Cena vs. Barrett One on One is a big deal, however a little quick to throw them in cage.