Heel to Faces

[Kiffy Lube]

Why do I always hear the phrase "so and so is a better heel" on the internet? The easy answer is heel is easier to play. Which I reply exactly. So when pretty much every character ever played in wrestling is a better heel when does it get too much? When does it get to the point where this needs to be addressed? I guess if I wasn't here never.

Stop fuckin' telling me that someone is a better heel. I already know they are and they already proved they are earlier in their career. Only guy I ever thought that may be a better face than heel is Rey Mysterio. Take that for what it is worth.

 

[The Cork]

It's mainly because heels are the better booked of the two (because it is easier to play one, like you said). Every face in wrestling at the minute is a suck up who high fives kids and smiles like a moron on his way out to the ring. CM Punk and Randy Orton were different up until recently, but now they are just the same too.

Its easier as a heel because its easier to get people to hate you than to love you. Think about it, how many different things can you do to piss someone off. Diss their local sports team, the womens looks, say they look like inbreds, etc. Now apply that to a babyface, what can they do to get the crowd to like them. Come out in the local teams sports jersey a la John Cena circa rapper gimmick, but thats transparent unless you actually come from there. Say you love the fans? Its been overdone.

The IWC is a fickle bunch anyway and its best to make your own opinions up rather than go with the internet consensus. After all, this is a bunch of people that were screaming for Randy Orton to turn face on Legacy. When he turned face, he was suddenly a boring, robotic guy who was 'better as a heel'.

Most of all, people look fondly at the Attitude Era. You wont ever change that. Its rose tinted glasses for the most part, but when they see a guy like Steve Austin or The Rock, mega over babyfaces who had a bit of character and edginess to them, they resent guys like Cena and Orton for not having that spark.

I too, hate sweeping statements like "babyfaces are better than heels" (look at it on an individual basis, face Sheamus is better than heel Sheamus, IMO) but I can see a bit of truth there.

 

[PHX]

Simply because mainly in everyday life it's easier to make someone hate you than it is to make someone like you. Plus we're in the day and age since the attitude era where you have to have an edge for people on the net to like them. Just not accepted that faces are more routine in how they do things than heels hence why you probably see TNA knowing this and changing someone heel to face every week and you see how horrible that is. So it is pretty annoying to say the least but until that whole attitude era mindset ceases it's gonna keep going on among internet fans always wanting to see the heel or a face stay edgy which even then after a while they'll want that person heel.

 

[Defiant]

Faces always represented status quo to me. If everyone was a babyface, everything would be fair, very rarely would personal issues be present in the "story" of a match, etc.

Heels just make shit happen. Its not necessarily that heels are easier to play (not all heels are good heels) its just that heels are more interesting by their nature.

 

[SAL]

I think the premise behind this thread is correct. IWC folks wanting to turn a guy heel can be ridiculous at times. Every big star I can think of off the top of my head (other than CM Punk) caught on with the audience as a heel. If you're a face with no direction, you're Kofi Kingston. You entertain the crowd and give them a 5-10 minute break between important things. The way to the top is to turn heel. So if you look at people saying "turn Evan Bourne heel!" as if they were saying "give me a reason to care about Evan Bourne eventually," then there is some soundness behind it.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

I'll think about it like that SAL until I run into an idiot who can't put a thought like that together.

 

[Slim]

Heels always have more to play with than a face does. A face can tread the waters but not too deep otherwise they start to gray up whether they are a face or a "tweener" which is pretty much what your average person is. But in the world of wrestling everything is turned up quite a few notches so the face is going to be extra nice and the heel is going to be extra bad. Rarely can you find the character that has the right balance. Like look at Miz... as a heel he isn't too over the top but he has that "cool" factor. When Rock went Hollywood... he was a heel but it was the cool heel that you enjoyed like the Rock concerts.

The faces have just been turned bland and into copies of each other and that is the problem. The faces need to be altered a little bit so that you can differentiate between them in more than just appearance. Eddie Guerrero as a face was priceless because he wasn't just a happy go lucky guy slapping fans hands and giving high fives. He was an individual.

But either way... there is no pleasing the IWC... they will find some very small thing to poke at and over analyze and hate.