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That b/c WWE were dumb asses and have Have Orton Win b/c at the time WWE did not care CM Punk as being main event it was not until after his feud Orton that started to care! If that had there feud after Punk got his main event Push Punk would have beat him! Just like how he pin him in the 4 way match!

That's irrelevant you said Taker was the bigger draw because he defeated HHH at WM. So by that logic Orton is the bigger draw because he beat Punk.
 

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That's irrelevant you said Taker was the bigger draw because he defeated HHH at WM. So by that logic Orton is the bigger draw because he beat Punk.

No Taker is more RESPECT BY THE FANS! Even HHH himself would talk u that! Undertaker a bigger by far bigger then HHH! HHH NEEDED all though WWE and World Title Run to be in the Level as Taker with out though many title he would not EVEN CLOSE TO TAKER! Taker is uabove the WWE and World Title had did not need as many run as HHH needed to get the fans RESPECT like Taker did!
 

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No Taker is more RESPECT BY THE FANS! Even HHH himself would talk u that! Undertaker a bigger by far bigger then HHH! HHH NEEDED all though WWE and World Title Run to be in the Level as Taker with out though many title he would not EVEN CLOSE TO TAKER! Taker is uabove the WWE and World Title had did not need as many run as HHH needed to get the fans RESPECT like Taker did!

Serious question, why did Trips end up second in the box office of the year awards only topped by Mistico in 2008 whilst Taker was never mentioned in the list? Your theory is illogical, one minutes you're saying he's a bigger draw because he jobbed to him at Mania now it's due to respect. Make up your mind Gohan please.
 

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Serious question, why did Trips end up second in the box office of the year awards only topped by Mistico in 2008 whilst Taker was never mentioned in the list? Your theory is illogical, one minutes you're saying he's a bigger draw because he jobbed to him at Mania now it's due to respect. Make up your mind Gohan please.

Yet ok!? HHH would take u himself that Taker is a better draw then him I would bet money on it! And then laugh at u! So does this mean HHH is a bigger draw then HBK b/c he was World and WWE Champion only 4 time!? OH HELL NO! Taker is bigger END OF STORY CASE CLOSED!
 

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Yet ok!? HHH would take u himself that Taker is a better draw then him I would bet money on it! And then laugh at u! So does this mean HHH is a bigger draw then HBK b/c he was World and WWE Champion only 4 time!? OH HELL NO! Taker is bigger END OF STORY CASE CLOSED!

Do you speak to HHH regulary? If not you can't say that for a fact, where did title reigns come from? I mentioned the biggest box office draw awards handed out by Wrestling Observer (an independant body)
 

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Do you speak to HHH regulary? If not you can't say that for a fact, where did title reigns come from? I mentioned the biggest box office draw awards handed out by Wrestling Observer (an independant body)

WANTED BET!?
 

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WANTED BET!?

Do I want to bet that HHH was mentioned on an independent lists for box office drawing more often than Taker?

Since 2000

2000 - 1. The Rock (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. HHH; 3. Kurt Angle; 4. Kane and Chris Benoit; 6. X-Pac; 7. Undertaker; 8. Road Dogg; 9. Naoya Ogawa; 10. Kensuke Sasaki and Chris Jericho

2001 - 1. Steve Austin; 2. The Rock; 3. Kurt Angle; 4. HHH; 5. Undertaker; 6. Chris Jericho; 7. Kane; 8. Kensuke Sasaki, Chris Benoit and Keiji Muto

2002 -1. The Rock; 2. Bob Sapp; 3. HHH; 4. Hulk Hogan; 5. Chris Jericho; 6. Steve Austin; 7. Kazushi Sakuraba; 8. Brock Lesnar; 9. Yuji Nagata and Mirko Cro Cop

2003 - 1. Brock Lesnar; 2. HHH; 3. Kazushi Sakuraba; 4. Big Show and Kurt Angle; 6. Yuji Nagata, Hulk Hogan, Kenta Kobashi, Masahiro Chono, Bill Goldberg, Shawn Michaels and Wanderlei Silva

2004 - 1. HHH; 2. Chris Benoit; 3. Bob Sapp and Eddie Guerrero; 5. Shawn Michaels; 6. La Parka; 7. Randy Orton, Ric Flair and Kenta Kobashi; 10. Shinsuke Nakamura, Cibernetico and Perro Aguayo Jr.

2005 - 1. Kenta Kobashi; 2. HHH; 3. Mistico and Ultimo Guerrero; 5. Atlantis, John Cena and Batista; 8. Rey Bucanero and Cibernetico; 10. Kurt Angle and El Hijo del Santo

2006 - 1. Mistico; 2. Perro Aguayo Jr. and Dr. Wagner Jr.; 4. Atlantis and Black Warrior; 6. John Cena and Negro Casas; 8. Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero; 9. La Parka, Konnan and Muerte Cibernetico (Mesias)

2007 - 1. John Cena; 2. Mistico; 3. Batista; 4. Randy Orton and Perro Aguayo Jr; 6. Ultimo Guerrero; 7. Dr. Wagner Jr.; 8. Cibernetico; 9. Hector Garza and Great Khali

2008 - 1. Mistico; 2. HHH; 3. Perro Aguayo Jr.; 4. Ultimo Guerrero and Hector Garza; 6. Cibernetico; 7. Zorro and Shocker; 9. Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho


It's not the most credible list but proves my point.

http://wfigs.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=prowrestling&action=print&thread=198109

Just to show I didn't make it up.
 

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Do I want to bet that HHH was mentioned on an independent lists for box office drawing more often than Taker?

Since 2000

2000 - 1. The Rock (set all-time record for most big gates in one year); 2. HHH; 3. Kurt Angle; 4. Kane and Chris Benoit; 6. X-Pac; 7. Undertaker; 8. Road Dogg; 9. Naoya Ogawa; 10. Kensuke Sasaki and Chris Jericho

2001 - 1. Steve Austin; 2. The Rock; 3. Kurt Angle; 4. HHH; 5. Undertaker; 6. Chris Jericho; 7. Kane; 8. Kensuke Sasaki, Chris Benoit and Keiji Muto

2002 -1. The Rock; 2. Bob Sapp; 3. HHH; 4. Hulk Hogan; 5. Chris Jericho; 6. Steve Austin; 7. Kazushi Sakuraba; 8. Brock Lesnar; 9. Yuji Nagata and Mirko Cro Cop

2003 - 1. Brock Lesnar; 2. HHH; 3. Kazushi Sakuraba; 4. Big Show and Kurt Angle; 6. Yuji Nagata, Hulk Hogan, Kenta Kobashi, Masahiro Chono, Bill Goldberg, Shawn Michaels and Wanderlei Silva

2004 - 1. HHH; 2. Chris Benoit; 3. Bob Sapp and Eddie Guerrero; 5. Shawn Michaels; 6. La Parka; 7. Randy Orton, Ric Flair and Kenta Kobashi; 10. Shinsuke Nakamura, Cibernetico and Perro Aguayo Jr.

2005 - 1. Kenta Kobashi; 2. HHH; 3. Mistico and Ultimo Guerrero; 5. Atlantis, John Cena and Batista; 8. Rey Bucanero and Cibernetico; 10. Kurt Angle and El Hijo del Santo

2006 - 1. Mistico; 2. Perro Aguayo Jr. and Dr. Wagner Jr.; 4. Atlantis and Black Warrior; 6. John Cena and Negro Casas; 8. Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero; 9. La Parka, Konnan and Muerte Cibernetico (Mesias)

2007 - 1. John Cena; 2. Mistico; 3. Batista; 4. Randy Orton and Perro Aguayo Jr; 6. Ultimo Guerrero; 7. Dr. Wagner Jr.; 8. Cibernetico; 9. Hector Garza and Great Khali

2008 - 1. Mistico; 2. HHH; 3. Perro Aguayo Jr.; 4. Ultimo Guerrero and Hector Garza; 6. Cibernetico; 7. Zorro and Shocker; 9. Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho


It's not the most credible list but proves my point.

http://wfigs.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=prowrestling&action=print&thread=198109

Just to show I didn't make it up.

that is b/c HHH was in title match more then Taker was! Taker was BETTER CASE CLOSED!
 

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that is b/c HHH was in title match more then Taker was! Taker was BETTER CASE CLOSED!

Taker was a better talent absolutely but that doesn't effect the initial debate of who was the bigger draw.
 

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Taker was a better talent absolutely but that doesn't effect the initial debate of who was the bigger draw.

He was again what I said early WWE made HHH in the main evnt Title matchest more to make HHH look at the same level as Taker BUT HE IS NOT!
 

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He was again what I said early WWE made HHH in the main evnt Title matchest more to make HHH look at the same level as Taker BUT HE IS NOT!

It's irrelevant, you're spinning your wheels unless you offer me some kind of proof that Taker is the bigger draw buddy, this debate is going nowhere now sadly.
 

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It's irrelevant, you're spinning your wheels unless you offer me some kind of proof that Taker is the bigger draw buddy, this debate is going nowhere now sadly.

HE IS! Oh I will find it.
 

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I look forward to it Frank, ps a Youtube video of you in a mask saying it won't count :eek:tunga:

YET OK WE WILL SEE ABOUT THAT! :pipebomb: