Giant shit taken on Tag belts

[OrtonMark54]

But we're talking about 7-12 yr olds as the major demographic of wrestling fans. All the WWE is focused on doing is making them cheer for the good guys and boo the bad guys as well as buy T-Shirts and shit. Honestly, I would be impressed if a 10 yr old kid sat there and said, "WWE should treat these titles better. How am I supposed to care about Hart Dynasty going after the tag titles if this rookie doesnt care about winning them?"

Come on now...How many 7-12 yos do you see in the audience. Their major demographic is the 18-40ish range. That's the demographic that spends the most money.

The WWE's main issue is that there is no long term planning anymore. They work week to week and if it all ties together then great, if not who cares the fans are too dumb to think for themselves anyway.

 

[MizMasta3000]

You see alot of kids. You see the adults but guess what...they are there with/for their kids

 

[soulpower]

The WWE's main issue is that there is no long term planning anymore. They work week to week and if it all ties together then great, if not who cares the fans are too dumb to think for themselves anyway.

To be fair, things have been like this in WWE for years now. They only think about "long-term planning" during Wrestlemania season. And even then, the "long term" isn't that long (Usually 2 or 3 months).

 

[Hometown Kid]

That's my whole point. They SHOULD matter.

More focus needs to be put on the belts, and maybe when a young up and comer won a championship for the first time the fans would actually give two shits about him.

And Cena shouldn't be shitting all over the guy who just won the WHC, but that's another argument for another day.

I said that years ago. It's been the same way for awhile now. Like Miz said, their target demo either A. Thinks it's real, or B. Aren't smart enough to care. Business-wise it's smart, but ultimately a turn off for people who like to take wrestling a little more seriously. I agree with your point, it's just i'm not understanding why you're acting surprised about it now that it happened, especially to the tag titles.

 

[noumenon]

The thing that seems to be completely missed here is that Otunga is by far the best all around rookie on the NXT roster. The guy came across beautifully last night. He's already got a perfect character with back story set up for him and he plays his role to perfection. He did a great job last night both hosting and playing his role in the match. It had nothing to do with the tag titles and everything to do with furthering Batista and Cena's feud. And perhaps even to take it a step further... showing which NXT rookie WWE is currently eyeballing as the front runner in their competition.

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

You actually think they are going to follow up on this?

I'm not overreacting. They made the tag titles look like shit, plain and simple. They could have easily done something like this without putting the titles on the line. I know why they did it, I just don't like how it was done. What are we to think when they try to use the tag straps to put over the Hart Dynasty? Yippie, they won the belts that some no name rookie didn't even care about.

Lastly, stop being so childish. There is no reason to put sighs in your response like it pains you to have to respond to such a moron.

*SIGH* What's so hard to understand that the belts were not the focus of the friggin angle? Goodness, don't get bloody bum syndrome, the tag belts were NOTthe focus. The focus was the Batista-Cena feud and giving Otunga a rub and a heel turn all at once. There wasn't much too complain about, but you found a way, you didn't have to start another thread, you could have easily put this with the tag thread, as that is where it belongs. They didn't shit on the belts just because a rookie didn't want them and because they were on the line. I really want to know why people are thinking that a rookie's first goal is to go after the gold, a rookie's first desire should be to make an impact.

And if you want to complain about a title getting smothered with shit, than look no further than the world title. Orton cleanly pinned the three day old champ, after he was almost squashed by Cena last week, derailing any momentum he had, not that Swagger is over enough to be champ as it already is. Good lord, at least the tag champs won and have had a steady reign and are over. Swagger is an infant champ who beat a more despised heel and he really isn't that over, then he gets pinned by Orton. That's called burying and shitting on a title. A rookie turning on the top dog in the company to further the top angle and get a rub and a turn at the same time, regardless of how you feel how the tag belts were treated, is good booking, and the champs won. Your totally missing the bigger, more important picture here to whine about something that is a moot point. Again *SIGH*.

 

[OrtonMark54]

*SIGH* What's so hard to understand that the belts were not the focus of the friggin angle? Goodness, don't get bloody bum syndrome, the tag belts were NOTthe focus. The focus was the Batista-Cena feud and giving Otunga a rub and a heel turn all at once. There wasn't much too complain about, but you found a way, you didn't have to start another thread, you could have easily put this with the tag thread, as that is where it belongs. They didn't shit on the belts just because a rookie didn't want them and because they were on the line. I really want to know why people are thinking that a rookie's first goal is to go after the gold, a rookie's first desire should be to make an impact.

And if you want to complain about a title getting smothered with shit, than look no further than the world title. Orton cleanly pinned the three day old champ, after he was almost squashed by Cena last week, derailing any momentum he had, not that Swagger is over enough to be champ as it already is. Good lord, at least the tag champs won and have had a steady reign and are over. Swagger is an infant champ who beat a more despised heel and he really isn't that over, then he gets pinned by Orton. That's called burying and shitting on a title. A rookie turning on the top dog in the company to further the top angle and get a rub and a turn at the same time, regardless of how you feel how the tag belts were treated, is good booking, and the champs won. Your totally missing the bigger, more important picture here to whine about something that is a moot point. Again *SIGH*.

*SIGH I'm a loser SIGH* I'll use your line of thinking. Orton vs Swagger wasn't about the title. It was about getting Orton over as a face. Therefore it shouldn't matter because it wasn't about the title.

At least it wasn't a title match and at least Orton didn't walk out on it.

Now go try to be a mod somewhere else. No one cares if a thread gets your stamp of approval.

 

[OrtonMark54]

I said that years ago. It's been the same way for awhile now. Like Miz said, their target demo either A. Thinks it's real, or B. Aren't smart enough to care. Business-wise it's smart, but ultimately a turn off for people who like to take wrestling a little more seriously. I agree with your point, it's just i'm not understanding why you're acting surprised about it now that it happened, especially to the tag titles.

I'm not surprised at all. I'm just getting fed up with the shortsightedness.

 

[Charismatic Edge]

Anyone who thinks Otunga walking away was good then you're out of your gord! If you want him to get over as a heel, have him pin Big Slow, take all 4 belts, beat Cena with them and then they're forced to tag together for a while because Otunga wanted his own gold. That's how you make a heel and not make the tag title look like dogshit.

 

[Colin Gimp]

Actually, there has been major focus on the tag titles for at least a year. Just because the WWE shit on them in the past, doesn't make it right to do so now.

You really call bigshow and jericho reviving the tag team division? The pairing was two single wrestlers who can't fit in a singles feud paired for comedy and reaction until it started heating up. They've always 'double' booked feuds by having single wrestlers team up, At first this really meant nothing.

When Kendrick and London had the titles for a year and the spirit squad was running around MnM (Morrison is a rare talent who started out tag team and has now excelled ever since then. Wonder why everyone thinks he's going to have a title one day) along with failure teams. They were showing tag teams facing new opponents often, this rarely happened since the hardys/dudlez/ec days. they showed promise that they were trying. Tag team wrestling is a big part of wrestling and sports entertainment

Now they're just using it to sell single wrestlers to the fans. Wtf is that bllshit

the miz. lawl

 

[OrtonMark54]

You really call bigshow and jericho reviving the tag team division? The pairing was two single wrestlers who can't fit in a singles feud paired for comedy and reaction until it started heating up. They've always 'double' booked feuds by having single wrestlers team up, At first this really meant nothing.

When Kendrick and London had the titles for a year and the spirit squad was running around MnM (Morrison is a rare talent who started out tag team and has now excelled ever since then. Wonder why everyone thinks he's going to have a title one day) along with failure teams. They were showing tag teams facing new opponents often, this rarely happened since the hardys/dudlez/ec days. they showed promise that they were trying. Tag team wrestling is a big part of wrestling and sports entertainment

Now they're just using it to sell single wrestlers to the fans. Wtf is that bllshit

the miz. lawl

Show and Jericho actually made the belts seem important. It doesn;t matter to me if they were only paired together because they had nothing else to do. DX vs Jerishow fighting for the belts because they actually wanted them did great things for the tag belts.

 

[Charismatic Edge]

^^^I don't anything about Big Slow. He was a last second replacement for a much better wrestler with personality...Edge. Had Edge and Jericho been given their run, only then would the tag belts have meant something.

 

[...god...]

I see your point of view, but it's really not as bad as you're making it out to be. I thought about it too, but firstly, wait until NXT and next week to see if there was any explanation. Getting over good with Batista, getting paid out, or simply and more perfectly DESPISING John Cena so much that you don't want to tag with him would be a excellent reasoning. Like said, the world title is the biggest joke now than ever, you should focus on that. Sheamus and Swagger, both guys who did nothing, ESPECIALLY Swagger who was fucking losing to SANTINO, Masters, and even got raped by Christian before he left is now the champ? So bad. Also, JeriShow was good, got the job done and was nice (thanks to Jericho).

 

[-TJ-]

^^^I don't anything about Big Slow. He was a last second replacement for a much better wrestler with personality...Edge. Had Edge and Jericho been given their run, only then would the tag belts have meant something.

I actually liked Jeri-Show's run, I just hated their opponents. MVP/Henry and DX. aperbag3: And them losing it a little to early in my opinion.

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

*SIGH I'm a loser SIGH* .

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I'm not surprised at all. I'm just getting fed up with the shortsightedness.

Says the guy who's missing the big picture.


And I can't understand how people are complaining about how tag teams that are thrown together are bringing down the tag division, yet are complaining that Otunga and Cena didn't win the straps? Am I missing something here? Wouldn't that be shitting on the straps?

I'll use your line of thinking. Orton vs Swagger wasn't about the title. It was about getting Orton over as a face. Therefore it shouldn't matter because it wasn't about the title.

Nice try, but no. There's a difference. A huge one. You can pussyfoot around it as much as you want to make yourself feel right, I don't care, but if you're telling me that the tag and WHC matches are on the same level, your wrong.

Orton's already over. Period. Swagger, holding the second most important title, wasn't even over in the mid card. Having your world champ, who needs anything he can get to get over, being pinned by a man who's already the no.2 face on the Raw roster did nothing positive for anyone. Fans already knew Orton could beat Swagger, they knew that three days ago, three weeks ago, three months ago, poor guy was just a floundering mid carder, Orton's been main eventing for 3 plus years. Beating Swagger, who looks like a fluke champ as it already is did nothing for Randy. They just crushed what little momentum Swagger had and killed whatever money they could have made with him as champ. That's called bad business. Savvy?

And your logic is that Otunga, just because he's a rookie, should be wanting to win tag gold, despite wanting singles success? So he makes a power move on the top dog in the company to make a name for himself and avoids being Cena's lackey. That not only gives him a huge rub and garners heat for his heel turn, it gives him a dimension for a feud when he gets called up to the main roster. That's called smart business. But your short sightedness is just analyzing one very small, unimportant, aspect of the match, just because you say you take wrestling seriously. Good for you, just because youtake wrestling seriously doesn't mean your character critiques are how every rookie worker should aspire to be. Otunga's heel turn coincides perfectly with his character while if he wouldn't have benefited as much as working a match as Cena's sidekick. So, as much as you think they took a heaping shit on the belts, they didn't. The champs went over in a heel manner, a nice heel turn was booked for Otunga and he now has a heat and serve feud ready for him when he joins the roster and it added to the main event program.

So you should putting some juice in your cup before you try throwing it in my face.