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Kid Vicious said:
Rock was the only black WWE Champion for 20 years until Kofi won only a couple years ago. Then Big E.
Booker and Mark won the World Heavyweight
 

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Rock was first, Then Booker T, then Mark Henry, Then in the past 3 years, Kofi, LAshley, Big E

I never counted the big gold belt because by the time Henry won it it was clearly considered a secondary title.

It took from 1998 to 2018 to get a second black WWE.

I did forget Lashley. Long overdue for him.
 

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Project Jonny said:
That is not what I said. He didn't live the experience of most Hispanics, so can't speak for us. I never said he wasn't Hispanic. He just wouldn't be able to say he knows my struggle, the same way I wouldn't be able to speak on the struggle of a black person.
Not sure what you thing equates as being 'hispanic' but its got nothing to do with wealth or upbringing
 

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neither does being 'black' 'asian' 'jewish' 'white' etc
 

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It's New Years Eve. Why the f**k are you nerds in here arguing about race when you could be out getting drunk and sticking fireworks up your ass or whatever it is people do these days....
 

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Kid Vicious said:
I never counted the big gold belt because by the time Henry won it it was clearly considered a secondary title. It took from 1998 to 2018 to get a second black WWE. I did forget Lashley. Long overdue for him.
I can accept that view, but yeah it was pretty bad how long it took considering the talent they've had coming in and out of the door
 
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what someone identifies as - should not be diminished by the amount of money they do or don't have in their wallet
 

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Some ppl don't think rock black enough either too fwiw

He is, but I don’t think Vince thought he was.

Vince had many Samoan champs, but Rock was the only black one for 20 years. Vince is a weird man.
 

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Eggnog Frog said:
what someone identifies as - should not be diminished by the amount of money they do or don't have in their wallet
Kinda like how gender shouldnt also dictate who gets paid more? gender wage gap is pretty bad too
 

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Oh no :bosque another one of them semantic arguments coming
 

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@Project Jonny Fair enough on Cody but I still don't see it ultimately. POC are super widely represented across AEW. I can understand Swole feeling like her specific image of how black wrestlers should be represented not being sufficient in AEW... Everyone has their own ideals when it comes to that. But to say that any person in any ethnic group is being held back, I see no validity to that.
 

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ive never been paid less in any job ive worked in - where i have had the same level as a man.
 

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Eggnog Frog said:
Not sure what you thing equates as being 'hispanic' but its got nothing to do with wealth or upbringing
Again I didn't say he wasn't Hispanic. He can say he's Cuban, wave that flag, mark it on documentation, celebrate Hispanic heritage all he wants. I just said that he wouldn't be able to speak for the community in terms of knowing the struggle because he didn't live that specific struggle.
 

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It's New Years Eve. Why the f**k are you nerds in here arguing about race when you could be out getting drunk and sticking fireworks up your ass or whatever it is people do these days....

I’m already getting drunk at a New Years party.

But the iwc bugging out brought me here for a sec.
 
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