General Chit-Chat Thread - No Spoilers

[Kim Jong Umb]

But also I guess MLW and NWA would qualify as indies probably

mlw certainly

 

[Time]

I do find it a little crazy the expectation people have for the PC to pump out homegrown talent

I'm not saying they should have found the new Stone Cold or anything but you think after all these years they'd have more than 3 success stories

 

[Dale]

I mean does it matter whether they're homegrown or they take a Tyler Black and polish a diamond?

 

[Smart Marx]

The indie scene is popping in a sense, because they're definitely drawing more than ever. I think that's just a result of more fans nowadays being smarter and more diehard than the average fan of 20 years ago. But the talent? I'd say the talent pool is more like the worst it's been in generations.

I half agree and half disagree. I’d say talent is a definite decline compared to 20 years ago in the overall sense, but the indies were a dire place at the time. And not just because the fans are smarter.

There just weren’t much in terms of indies in general back then unless you counted ECW as an Indy.

I’d 100% give you 10 years ago. ROH and PWG and all them indies much better in 2006-2015 era.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

If the current Roman Reigns can't get mainstream exposure, WWE isn't gonna be able to make any more stars like that

 

[Hoss]

I mean there have been good acts come out of the PC as well. Weren't American Alpha homegrown? Heavy Machinery? Both very solid tag teams.

 

[Time]

I mean does it matter whether they're homegrown or they take a Tyler Black and polish a diamond?

Then what do you need a PC for? Wrestlers of the past got better working with veterans every night. PC idea was to take people off the street and make them wrestlers

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

Neither together and the two guys that were on teams are now teaming

 

[Kiffy Lube]

They should have went all in on Otis. Imagine him makin' appearances on sitcoms

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

They should have went all in on Otis. Imagine him makin' appearances on sitcoms

or Otis sitcom

 

[Smart Marx]

Of course that has to do with the existence of, what, 5 or 6 large scale companies in America at the moment?

You beat me to it.

Yeah, 5-6 major companies I’d say. Most of the top indies come close to just being mainstream at this point. And then like 10 solid indies rn.

 

[Dale]

Then what do you need a PC for? Wrestlers of the past got better working with veterans every night. PC idea was to take people off the street and make them wrestlers

Because they're still taking raw as fuck people with no experience?

 

[Comrade Khan]

I mean there have been good acts come out of the PC as well. Weren't American Alpha homegrown? Heavy Machinery? Both very solid tag teams.

both dead now in wwe

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

I mean do you think with mord internet access and streamimg services that the indies been bigger in 90s too?

 

[Hoss]

I'm just saying PC has pumped out some talented people. It's more to do with the booking of the main roster as to why they don't succeed.