Future Looks Bright For TNA Right Now

[Testify]

They're doing more shows which is great but the added salaries of Hogan, Bischoff, RVD before his contract expired, Hardy and Anderson will have taken a chunk of that surely. I know Spike helped fund Sting and Angle at one point, is this still the case? Really unsure on that one, plus you have travel expenses which could be an issue as well if they're doing more shows. Say you're a lower card vanilla midget who's earning $300 a week does TNA help cover your travel, food and accomodation? Admittedly I pulled those figues outta of my ass but you're smart so you'll understand the principle, now compare that to the IZ you only have to get to and from Florida, you've maybe moved there as you're on call to work so that's even less expenses. Flair mentions here that they don't cover expenses, although indirectly and admittedly you must question him as a source. ( source )

Also they're rumoured to not offer support with medical bills, as shown here when Ron Killing's injury is mentioned and how they wanted him to pay back the costs although it was a show TNA booked him on and took a fee for. A similar situation occured with Conan ( source ) which IMO shows the inept nature of TNA's management in the past with many of those still on the office today it raises issues for concern IMO, same as Vince's history of mistreating his staff, no matter how many public charades he presents I'll maintain he's a manipulative man who'll do what ever he has to remain king of the hill, maybe it's what you need to be a success in this wrestling business we all love. Just an IMO of course.

I kind of agree with both of you if that makes sense, I agree the issues were and could well still be present due to the idiotic nature of some of TNA's management however all the reports seem to be from years ago so we can only speculate whether the issues are still present. Jesse Sorrenson's situation offers me hope however, they handled his retirement excellently IMO.

I get what you're saying and we all know there's been issues with certain individuals here and there, and we also know TNA takes care of its talent, multiple ones have stated it like Sorensen, Daniels and Sting.

I still stand by my point, this is 2013. TNA is in a new era, they run DOUBLE more events then they ran 6 yrs ago, they have more money sources let alone Spike TV etc. 95% of the main TNA roster can make a helluva living if they want, and don't let even started on how many wrestlers sign yearly on Gutcheck process just to be a part of the roster and how many people TNA signed to a contract in 2012. Past is past, now is now, lets move since everything is OK and nobody complains (minus Stopspot P).

 

[Stopspot]

I get what you're saying and we all know there's been issues with certain individuals here and there, and we also know TNA takes care of its talent, multiple ones have stated it like Sorensen, Daniels and Sting.

I still stand by my point, this is 2013. TNA is in a new era, they run DOUBLE more events then they ran 6 yrs ago, they have more money sources let alone Spike TV etc. 95% of the main TNA roster can make a helluva living if they want, and don't let even started on how many wrestlers sign yearly on Gutcheck process just to be a part of the roster and how many people TNA signed to a contract in 2012. Past is past, now is now, lets move since everything is OK and nobody complains (minus Stopspot P).

Not to be disrespectful but you approach of "past is the past" seems to me like ignoring the fact that this has been an issue and that these kind of problems haven't existed. It's like its not okay to discuss the fact that TNA over the years have been very bad at managing their talent, but it is okay to bring up errors that WWE and other promotions have done? Seems like sweeping the black side of TNA under the rug to me.

I like TNA. I just feel like this is not something that should be ignored. The fact that rumors like the one that the Mid card talent had to bunker up in one room during the 2011 UK tour because they couldn't afford individual rooms due to the pay should be reason enough to discuss this subject. If we can be critical of WWE's previous business decisions why not TNA's?

 

[Testify]

Not to be disrespectful but you approach of "past is the past" seems to me like ignoring the fact that this has been an issue and that these kind of problems haven't existed. It's like its not okay to discuss the fact that TNA over the years have been very bad at managing their talent, but it is okay to bring up errors that WWE and other promotions have done? Seems like sweeping the black side of TNA under the rug to me.

I like TNA. I just feel like this is not something that should be ignored. The fact that rumors like the one that the Mid card talent had to bunker up in one room during the 2011 UK tour because they couldn't afford individual rooms due to the pay should be reason enough to discuss this subject. If we can be critical of WWE's previous business decisions why not TNA's?

Man, you really don't read what I write, don't you?:damnn:

I said there HAVE BEEN problems.
I have NOT ignored them.
I have said the problems HAVE existed.

I just don't feel the need to get into much details about it since its pretty much past and I don't want to look into past a lot. Now is now. I hope that isn't a problem to understand. I'm not type of a fan (dunno how to express in diferrent way).

 

[Stopspot]

Man, you really don't read what I write, don't you?:damnn:

I said there HAVE BEEN problems.
I have NOT ignored them.
I have said the problems HAVE existed.

I just don't feel the need to get into much details about it since its pretty much past and I don't want to look into past a lot. Now is now. I hope that isn't a problem to understand. I'm not type of a fan (dunno how to express in diferrent way).

And I'm saying it is still possibly the present. Other than silence there have been no reports of these issues being resolved or improved. That could mean that TNA has improved upon all these points yes but it could also mean that a company whide order of "you do not speak about what goes on backstage" has gone out. Dixie Carter used to work in PR before going into wrestling, if there is one thing she knows it is how to build an image. And with impact going on the road I feel that the issue of pay is a relevant subject. If it still is like before, where mid card talent was paid roughly $300 per match with no travel expenses covered and they are going to do more dates that would entail more travel and travel related expenses. Despite working more dates these under card guys would start losing money since they would have to pay for their own lodging, cars, gas and food. If these issues with pay still exist, how is that fair to guys like Christian York, Kenny King, Rockstar Spud (who still lives in England so he has to fly in from the UK as well) and so forth? Since there are no solid info on how these guys are paid now there is still the chance that this is the way they are paid.

If we can talk about negatives about WWE then we can also talk about negatives (rumored and real) about TNA. A lot of people here paint TNA up as the perfect wrestling company which in my mind seems a bit naive. And this comes from the guy who's been called Mr. Positive.

 

[Crayo]

Not to be disrespectful but you approach of "past is the past" seems to me like ignoring the fact that this has been an issue and that these kind of problems haven't existed. It's like its not okay to discuss the fact that TNA over the years have been very bad at managing their talent, but it is okay to bring up errors that WWE and other promotions have done? Seems like sweeping the black side of TNA under the rug to me.

I like TNA. I just feel like this is not something that should be ignored. The fact that rumors like the one that the Mid card talent had to bunker up in one room during the 2011 UK tour because they couldn't afford individual rooms due to the pay should be reason enough to discuss this subject. If we can be critical of WWE's previous business decisions why not TNA's?

Great post.

 

[seabs]

Rockstar Spud still lives in the UK?

 

[Stopspot]

Rockstar Spud still lives in the UK?

According to his Facebook and the UK wrestling facebook account he is doing a lot of bookings in England so one would assume so. Like at least every 2 weeks there seems to be a Spud booking.

 

[Testify]

And I'm saying it is still possibly the present. Other than silence there have been no reports of these issues being resolved or improved. That could mean that TNA has improved upon all these points yes but it could also mean that a company whide order of "you do not speak about what goes on backstage" has gone out. Dixie Carter used to work in PR before going into wrestling, if there is one thing she knows it is how to build an image. And with impact going on the road I feel that the issue of pay is a relevant subject. If it still is like before, where mid card talent was paid roughly $300 per match with no travel expenses covered and they are going to do more dates that would entail more travel and travel related expenses. Despite working more dates these under card guys would start losing money since they would have to pay for their own lodging, cars, gas and food. If these issues with pay still exist, how is that fair to guys like Christian York, Kenny King, Rockstar Spud (who still lives in England so he has to fly in from the UK as well) and so forth? Since there are no solid info on how these guys are paid now there is still the chance that this is the way they are paid.

If we can talk about negatives about WWE then we can also talk about negatives (rumored and real) about TNA. A lot of people here paint TNA up as the perfect wrestling company which in my mind seems a bit naive. And this comes from the guy who's been called Mr. Positive.

So help me God, this will be my last post on this subject.

Once again, I'm not the fan that kinda cares what wrestlers checks and expenses are, just like they don't care for mine. And speaking of TNA talent (you brought up King and York), everyone is being flown and sat in a hotel for every tapings. Fact.
Rockstar Spud has moved to the USA permanently to wrestle for TNA. Fact.

"A lot of people here paint TNA up as the perfect wrestling company which in my mind seems a bit naive." - who ever said that lmfao? :dawg: I hope you ain't coming after me!

And one last note - I never talked about WWE paycheck, not once. Or their situations and problems. Or anything else. Why? I'm not interested in it. I'm sometimes interested in some backstage politics with Trips, Cena and Vince, but it is it. I don't give a fuck about their money and so on.

Problems exist(ed). I'm done. Just not into discussing stuff like that, no matter what company it is, PWG, Japan, ROH, WWE or TNA. OK? You feel free. I'm not judging you on anything, just saying.

 

[Testify]

Rockstar Spud still lives in the UK?

No. He moved to the US on February 23rd.

 

[Stopspot]

No. He moved to the US on February 23rd.

Source? I cannot find any info on that. Neither can I find any info on talent being flown in and housed on the company dime.

 

[Crayo]

It's "cheque", not "check". That was really bugging me.

 

[seabs]

Paycheck looks right though, paycheque seems off for some reason.

 

[Crayo]

Check is American English, but I'm convinced Testify is actually from Croatia or something (JoeRulz is and they know each other irl apparently), and that this south American stuff is a gimmick. ipebomb:

I think paycheck is alright in American English too; not sure if they combine the words or not.

 

[seabs]

I'm really from Sweden, all this Sheffield shit is a lie.

 

[Stopspot]

I'm actually Haggis.