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In recognition of TNA's upcoming 10 year anniversary I've decided to go back and look at each and every one of their PPV shows from 2004 to the present. Hopefully these reviews will help anyone who's never seen the product before to get a feel for all the good and bad in it. I'll do my best to get one PPV up every day, or at least every other day, so make sure to check back here often.
So, with that out of the way, here we go...
The intro advertises TNA as "the new face of professional wrestling. Ah, they had such high hopes back then didn't they? Apparently they're also on the "precipice of greatness" and the best part? They still are, some 10 years later. The opening video package is pretty pretentious and way too similar to the WWE style, but then again its not like they could have done anything too original with it so I won't fault them. I did find it amusing that they mentioned this was a genesis, which it was, but that they didn't call the PPV "Genesis", a name they didn't think to use until more than a year later.
Mike Tenay and Don West are our announcers and we're READY TO GO!!!!
20-Man X-Division Gauntlet Match for the World X-Cup
The action is fast and furious here so I'll just point out a couple of highlights. I love that La Parka has to be called LA Park for reasons only my brain can fathom. Ah, good old Jerelle Clark, he of the 630. That move does look pretty impressive when he hits it, but even more impressive is Kazarian kicking him right in the face afterwards. That's what you get for showboating Jerelle! Partway through the match Hector Garza comes in and I cringe because I can't stand the guy, so of course he'll probably win this whole thing. Matt Sydal (Evan Bourne for the two or three people here who don't know that) brings some spotty offense but more importantly some stellar selling, particularly where Sonny Siaki is concerned. He eats a Siaki clothesline and does his best Rockers impression by flipping right through it. Oh, Shark Boy's in this too, which automatically makes it awesome because, hey, its Shark Boy!
Meanwhile, outside the ring there's a pointless angle going on where we're not supposed to know whether Alex Shelley has been eliminated or not. I hate these because the end result is always the same. Spanky (Brian Kendrick) comes out to perhaps the most bizarre big band music I've ever heard and its actually so bad it got a laugh out of me. There's one real nice spot towards the end where Chris Sabin tosses Kazarian off the top ropes and Kazarian flies right into Garza. It looks sweet and more importantly, it looks like it hurt Garza! Unfortunately it didn't hurt him enough as he ends up pinning Kazarian at the end and taking home the World X Cup. Kazarian was the real star of this match though, coming in as entrant number one and being the last eliminated. He probably should have gone over, particularly when you consider Garza ended up going nowhere after his legal problems.
The match itself was 26 minutes and believe me, you could tell. I would have preferred either a 10 man or an Ultimate X match to open the show as I feel that would have been more indicative of the X-Division. They were, after all, trying to sell people on it and while the match wasn't horrible, it just wasn't that memorable either. **1/4
Garza cuts a promo and he's happy..he's so happy...and the translator is too. Man do I ever hate Garza. That is all.
A Dusty Rhodes promo pops up as I remember the DOA angle that's about to permeate this PPV. Oh wow, these pseudo-political ads are turrible I say. At least Dusty approves, as he states at the end of the ad. Hearing the statement "Vince Russo has carried New York" makes me laugh for some reason. Not as much as the voting polls breaking down in Stamford, Connecticut though. Who the hell writes this stuff?
8 Man Tag - Kid Kash, Dallas and The Naturals vs The Truth, Erik Watts, Johnny B Badd and Pat Kenney
As Truth makes his way out to the ring I wonder how awesome his crazy heel from a year ago would have done back in 2004? The most impressive guy in this match though? Johnny B Badd, hands down. I've always been a Marc Mero fan, and its nice to see him show little to no lack of rust considering he's missed a good amount of time at this point. Erik Watts actually did have some sort of interesting character going on back at this time as well, but every time I look at him I just see this...
Anyhow, this match is what it is, not offensive because its not long enough to be, but not that memorable either. It moves along nicely until it breaks down, at which time its just a mess. Killings hits a weird, Pedigree-like move for the finish. Meh. **
Shane Douglas just wants to know who's in the limo.
A bizarre sequence showing Abyss going nuts in a sensory deprivation chamber, in preparation for the Monster's Ball match in a bit. This is the type of stuff I live for, and it didn't disappoint. Abyss was pretty awesome back in the day.
Mascarita Sagrada vs Pirata Morgan - Midget Match
My grandfather was a big fan of the midgets, me, not so much. I don't mind the hilarity of watching little people run around mind you, but I'd prefer it not be during a wrestling show. Sagrada's music is the worst rip off of the song Low Rider that I've ever heard and you should totally watch this match simply to hear how bad it is! He does bust out a couple of nifty little moves, but the entire affair was way too choreographed for my liking. *
Dusty Rhodes is still in the lead in the DOA election...in case anyone cares.
3 Live Kru cuts a promo backstage and Konnan hits the following line. "You've started something that you don't just know how to finish, you've started something you don't even know how to start." This man is a goddamn philosopher folks!
Scott Hall comes out and he's walking slow. He says you can't throw a party without inviting him and that he hasn't missed many parties. It shows. He then proceeds to say Big Sexy isn't here tonight, oh and mentions that he invented the ladder...match. Oh and may the best Jeff win, which Tenay notes is pretty non-committal but if you're a wrestling fan you know exactly who he means.
Team Canada (c) vs 3 Live Kru - NWA Tag Team Titles Match
It's awesome to see the Roode and Young when they were a little younger, and its even cooler that they're still with the company today. Anyhow, this match is another that's just there, though there's an amazing Konnan botch where he totally misses a kick to Bobby Roode. I honestly don't care that much about this match because Konnan really sucks, and seriously, this is the best you could do for your first PPV ever? 3LK wins the belts for the happy moment as I cringe at the thought of Konnan holding any sort of title.*3/4.
Raven cuts a crazy promo, even by his standards, which means its must see material.
A pointless Russo ad for this DOA thing, which has now had four segments devoted to it tonight.
Piper's Pit with Jimmy Snuka
See, this bothers me. First of all, the segment is a total trainwreck, which in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. If its completely bizarre, its usually worth a laugh, which this is. Unfortunately it seems counter-productive to me to continually reference events that happened in other companies. The focus should be solely on TNA and nothing else. If you're going to hit someone with a coconut, please don't make it take 8 minutes and please make it mean something. Yes, I realize the absurdity of that statement, but believe me, its no more absurd than this entire segment. Kid Kash eventually comes out to diss Snuka before getting choked out for his troubles. Kazarian and Michael Shane come out to do a beatdown and then Sonjay Dutt comes down to take them all out. This eventually leads to Kash hitting Dutt with a coconut and then Stevens and Kazarian tell him that wasn't cool. What the fuck? Didn't they just come in to help him beat down some legends? Wow, this was a total mess and I advise everyone to avoid it at all costs.
Monty Brown cuts a nonsensical promo about no longer having constipation (seriously) among other things. Raven and Abyss are going to feel the POUUUUNNNNNNCCCCCCCCEEEEEEE!!!
Trinity vs. Jaqueline
I'm glad TNA cares about the women's wrestling now, because they sure as hell didn't back then. Trinity wins with a nice moonsault but that doesn't save the match from being total crap. 1/2*
DOA segment number five. If I see one more I might be DOA after hanging myself.
Abyss vs. Raven vs. Monty Brown - Monster's Ball Match
The promo prior to the Monster's Ball Match has the worst music ever. It sounds like something you could do on an 80's Casio keyboard. The concept for this match is pretty cool though. They put the three men in isolation chambers for 24 hours and then let them loose in a hardcore match. They even sell this by shading their eyes when the light hits them, which is a nice touch. It's too bad they didn't sell the isolation effects after, because once this starts its a typical no-dq match. The crowd was really into this one though, which helps it out a lot. At one point they cut to the rafters and show the "spokesperson for Abyss" who is shrouded in a dark cloth. Quick, who is it? Why its James Mitchell of course, and the very idea that they tried to make this mysterious is absurd, considering Mitchell clearly voiced the Abyss promo that aired not five minutes before this!
Abyss brings in some tacks which probably means he's going to be slammed into them somehow. Yep, not one minute after spreading them on the canvas, he's powerbombed into them by Raven. Ouch. Monty wins with a SICK POUNCE on Raven through a table set up in the corner. All in all it was a spectacle. It could have been better if they'd sold the isloation and madness a little more, but hey, I'll take it. Best match thus far. **3/4
Shane Douglas gets into it with Don Harris backstage, as he still can't find out who's in the limo.
Petey Williams vs. AJ Styles - X-Division Championship
Unlike the X-Division Gauntlet at the beginning, this match simply highlights the greatest things about the X-Division and does it well. There's a great spot in the middle where Williams puts AJ in a tree of woe, steps on his balls and sings "O Canada". Now that's a heel! Unfortunately this match also has one of the stupidest endings I've ever seen. The ref is in the middle of counting when D'Amore jumps up on the apron. The ref stops the count to go yell at him even though he wasn't in the ring. I don't think I've ever seen that before and I would prefer never to again. That absolutely killed the crowd and the last two minutes, while allowing us a chance to see the awesome Canadian Destroyer, are completely underwhelming and heatless. The first 8 minutes rocked, the last two sucked. **3/4
AMW vs. XXX - Last Team Standing
So this is a last man standing elimination match. Nice brawl to start as these guys do a good job selling the heat they had at the time. Storm's leg is damaged going in, so Daniels takes the opportunity to club it with a chair, which makes him the first victim as he's unable to answer the ten count. Harris comes in and is pissy because his partner's been eliminated, so he hits a top rope legdrop which eliminates Daniels. That leaves us with Harris and Skipper, who have a mediocre mini-match until Harris hits Skipper with the Catatonic onto a steel chair. Skipper actually kicks out after two but the ref ignores it and then makes the ten count to give AMW the win. If you watch that Catatonic spot closely, it appears Skipper legit smacked his head off the back of the chair and got concussed. Not the best effort from these two teams, as we'll see, though its interesting to see the handcuffs come into play at the end here. A little foreshadowing in your booking is always a good thing. Still, the match wasn't nearly as good as it could have been given the talent involved. **
Dusty Rhodes beats Vince Russo in the safest bet since Fat Man and Little Boy were -1000 to beat Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Dusty comes out to gloat and books AMW vs. XXX in a Six Sides of Steel for Turning Point. He gets the crowd to chant TNA and then says "let them hear it all the way up North" as the WWE references just keep on coming.
Jeff Jarrett vs. Jeff Hardy - Ladder Match
Right off the bat Tenay goes on about the WWE, which is a prevalent theme tonight. I have to say, its really annoying and totally detracts from the product Tenay is SUPPOSED to be shilling for. I get making the odd mention to establish history, but Tenay goes way too far most of the time in his WWE felatio. There's a point in this match where Hardy, the supposed "Charismatic" Enigma, is so uncharismatic that some of the fans start cheering for Jarrett. You know what else this match has? Horribly contrived ladder spots that don't help tell any kind of story at all. I'm not a big fan of ladder matches at the best of times, but man does this one ever suck. However once Scott Hall comes out, the match descends into the greatest kind of insanity known to man. Hardy's already gotten into it with Hall on the floor and Hall's knocked down. Hardy and Jarrett head up a 20 foot ladder and eventually tip it over, where it lands RIGHT ON HALL! It's funny that a guy who wasn't in the actual match took the sickest bump.
Hold the phone, its Kevin Nash and what the hell is he wearing? He looks like Gator from The Other Guys and he's carrying two guitars, one of which he hands to Hall. Oh noez! Don't tell me Nash turned on Hardy? Yep, he did, and Jarett retains the belt in a total clusterfuck. Seriously, this was so overbooked it made my head spin and there was absolutely no momentum at all. *1/2
Nash cuts a promo where he makes some jokes about Hardy having a small penis (original, I know) and then babbles incoherently until he challenges some guys to come out from the back. AJ Styles comes out and takes on all three of them until he eats a boot from Nash. 3 Live Krew is out now and its turned into a total mess in the ring.
Suddenly the feet step out of the limo and then in the Impact Zone we get a horrible cover of "Pomp and Circumstance" before Macho Man Randy Savage comes out to what I'll call a mixed reaction. It's hard to blame the fans though, they just had to sit throught the idiocy of that main event, so I can see why they'd be a little demoralized. Savage tries to get into the ring as Tenay shills Impact on Thursday and we fade to black.
Overall, this was a pretty weak effort for their first PPV. Thankfully they'd pick up speed the following time around, but as the saying goes, you never get a second chance to make a first impression. There's some good here (AJ/Petey until the finish, Monsters Ball) but there's a lot more bad. Overall Rating 4/10.
So, with that out of the way, here we go...
TNA Victory Road 2004
The intro advertises TNA as "the new face of professional wrestling. Ah, they had such high hopes back then didn't they? Apparently they're also on the "precipice of greatness" and the best part? They still are, some 10 years later. The opening video package is pretty pretentious and way too similar to the WWE style, but then again its not like they could have done anything too original with it so I won't fault them. I did find it amusing that they mentioned this was a genesis, which it was, but that they didn't call the PPV "Genesis", a name they didn't think to use until more than a year later.
Mike Tenay and Don West are our announcers and we're READY TO GO!!!!
20-Man X-Division Gauntlet Match for the World X-Cup
The action is fast and furious here so I'll just point out a couple of highlights. I love that La Parka has to be called LA Park for reasons only my brain can fathom. Ah, good old Jerelle Clark, he of the 630. That move does look pretty impressive when he hits it, but even more impressive is Kazarian kicking him right in the face afterwards. That's what you get for showboating Jerelle! Partway through the match Hector Garza comes in and I cringe because I can't stand the guy, so of course he'll probably win this whole thing. Matt Sydal (Evan Bourne for the two or three people here who don't know that) brings some spotty offense but more importantly some stellar selling, particularly where Sonny Siaki is concerned. He eats a Siaki clothesline and does his best Rockers impression by flipping right through it. Oh, Shark Boy's in this too, which automatically makes it awesome because, hey, its Shark Boy!
Meanwhile, outside the ring there's a pointless angle going on where we're not supposed to know whether Alex Shelley has been eliminated or not. I hate these because the end result is always the same. Spanky (Brian Kendrick) comes out to perhaps the most bizarre big band music I've ever heard and its actually so bad it got a laugh out of me. There's one real nice spot towards the end where Chris Sabin tosses Kazarian off the top ropes and Kazarian flies right into Garza. It looks sweet and more importantly, it looks like it hurt Garza! Unfortunately it didn't hurt him enough as he ends up pinning Kazarian at the end and taking home the World X Cup. Kazarian was the real star of this match though, coming in as entrant number one and being the last eliminated. He probably should have gone over, particularly when you consider Garza ended up going nowhere after his legal problems.
The match itself was 26 minutes and believe me, you could tell. I would have preferred either a 10 man or an Ultimate X match to open the show as I feel that would have been more indicative of the X-Division. They were, after all, trying to sell people on it and while the match wasn't horrible, it just wasn't that memorable either. **1/4
Garza cuts a promo and he's happy..he's so happy...and the translator is too. Man do I ever hate Garza. That is all.
A Dusty Rhodes promo pops up as I remember the DOA angle that's about to permeate this PPV. Oh wow, these pseudo-political ads are turrible I say. At least Dusty approves, as he states at the end of the ad. Hearing the statement "Vince Russo has carried New York" makes me laugh for some reason. Not as much as the voting polls breaking down in Stamford, Connecticut though. Who the hell writes this stuff?
8 Man Tag - Kid Kash, Dallas and The Naturals vs The Truth, Erik Watts, Johnny B Badd and Pat Kenney
As Truth makes his way out to the ring I wonder how awesome his crazy heel from a year ago would have done back in 2004? The most impressive guy in this match though? Johnny B Badd, hands down. I've always been a Marc Mero fan, and its nice to see him show little to no lack of rust considering he's missed a good amount of time at this point. Erik Watts actually did have some sort of interesting character going on back at this time as well, but every time I look at him I just see this...
Anyhow, this match is what it is, not offensive because its not long enough to be, but not that memorable either. It moves along nicely until it breaks down, at which time its just a mess. Killings hits a weird, Pedigree-like move for the finish. Meh. **
Shane Douglas just wants to know who's in the limo.
A bizarre sequence showing Abyss going nuts in a sensory deprivation chamber, in preparation for the Monster's Ball match in a bit. This is the type of stuff I live for, and it didn't disappoint. Abyss was pretty awesome back in the day.
Mascarita Sagrada vs Pirata Morgan - Midget Match
My grandfather was a big fan of the midgets, me, not so much. I don't mind the hilarity of watching little people run around mind you, but I'd prefer it not be during a wrestling show. Sagrada's music is the worst rip off of the song Low Rider that I've ever heard and you should totally watch this match simply to hear how bad it is! He does bust out a couple of nifty little moves, but the entire affair was way too choreographed for my liking. *
Dusty Rhodes is still in the lead in the DOA election...in case anyone cares.
3 Live Kru cuts a promo backstage and Konnan hits the following line. "You've started something that you don't just know how to finish, you've started something you don't even know how to start." This man is a goddamn philosopher folks!
Scott Hall comes out and he's walking slow. He says you can't throw a party without inviting him and that he hasn't missed many parties. It shows. He then proceeds to say Big Sexy isn't here tonight, oh and mentions that he invented the ladder...match. Oh and may the best Jeff win, which Tenay notes is pretty non-committal but if you're a wrestling fan you know exactly who he means.
Team Canada (c) vs 3 Live Kru - NWA Tag Team Titles Match
It's awesome to see the Roode and Young when they were a little younger, and its even cooler that they're still with the company today. Anyhow, this match is another that's just there, though there's an amazing Konnan botch where he totally misses a kick to Bobby Roode. I honestly don't care that much about this match because Konnan really sucks, and seriously, this is the best you could do for your first PPV ever? 3LK wins the belts for the happy moment as I cringe at the thought of Konnan holding any sort of title.*3/4.
Raven cuts a crazy promo, even by his standards, which means its must see material.
A pointless Russo ad for this DOA thing, which has now had four segments devoted to it tonight.
Piper's Pit with Jimmy Snuka
See, this bothers me. First of all, the segment is a total trainwreck, which in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. If its completely bizarre, its usually worth a laugh, which this is. Unfortunately it seems counter-productive to me to continually reference events that happened in other companies. The focus should be solely on TNA and nothing else. If you're going to hit someone with a coconut, please don't make it take 8 minutes and please make it mean something. Yes, I realize the absurdity of that statement, but believe me, its no more absurd than this entire segment. Kid Kash eventually comes out to diss Snuka before getting choked out for his troubles. Kazarian and Michael Shane come out to do a beatdown and then Sonjay Dutt comes down to take them all out. This eventually leads to Kash hitting Dutt with a coconut and then Stevens and Kazarian tell him that wasn't cool. What the fuck? Didn't they just come in to help him beat down some legends? Wow, this was a total mess and I advise everyone to avoid it at all costs.
Monty Brown cuts a nonsensical promo about no longer having constipation (seriously) among other things. Raven and Abyss are going to feel the POUUUUNNNNNNCCCCCCCCEEEEEEE!!!
Trinity vs. Jaqueline
I'm glad TNA cares about the women's wrestling now, because they sure as hell didn't back then. Trinity wins with a nice moonsault but that doesn't save the match from being total crap. 1/2*
DOA segment number five. If I see one more I might be DOA after hanging myself.
Abyss vs. Raven vs. Monty Brown - Monster's Ball Match
The promo prior to the Monster's Ball Match has the worst music ever. It sounds like something you could do on an 80's Casio keyboard. The concept for this match is pretty cool though. They put the three men in isolation chambers for 24 hours and then let them loose in a hardcore match. They even sell this by shading their eyes when the light hits them, which is a nice touch. It's too bad they didn't sell the isolation effects after, because once this starts its a typical no-dq match. The crowd was really into this one though, which helps it out a lot. At one point they cut to the rafters and show the "spokesperson for Abyss" who is shrouded in a dark cloth. Quick, who is it? Why its James Mitchell of course, and the very idea that they tried to make this mysterious is absurd, considering Mitchell clearly voiced the Abyss promo that aired not five minutes before this!
Abyss brings in some tacks which probably means he's going to be slammed into them somehow. Yep, not one minute after spreading them on the canvas, he's powerbombed into them by Raven. Ouch. Monty wins with a SICK POUNCE on Raven through a table set up in the corner. All in all it was a spectacle. It could have been better if they'd sold the isloation and madness a little more, but hey, I'll take it. Best match thus far. **3/4
Shane Douglas gets into it with Don Harris backstage, as he still can't find out who's in the limo.
Petey Williams vs. AJ Styles - X-Division Championship
Unlike the X-Division Gauntlet at the beginning, this match simply highlights the greatest things about the X-Division and does it well. There's a great spot in the middle where Williams puts AJ in a tree of woe, steps on his balls and sings "O Canada". Now that's a heel! Unfortunately this match also has one of the stupidest endings I've ever seen. The ref is in the middle of counting when D'Amore jumps up on the apron. The ref stops the count to go yell at him even though he wasn't in the ring. I don't think I've ever seen that before and I would prefer never to again. That absolutely killed the crowd and the last two minutes, while allowing us a chance to see the awesome Canadian Destroyer, are completely underwhelming and heatless. The first 8 minutes rocked, the last two sucked. **3/4
AMW vs. XXX - Last Team Standing
So this is a last man standing elimination match. Nice brawl to start as these guys do a good job selling the heat they had at the time. Storm's leg is damaged going in, so Daniels takes the opportunity to club it with a chair, which makes him the first victim as he's unable to answer the ten count. Harris comes in and is pissy because his partner's been eliminated, so he hits a top rope legdrop which eliminates Daniels. That leaves us with Harris and Skipper, who have a mediocre mini-match until Harris hits Skipper with the Catatonic onto a steel chair. Skipper actually kicks out after two but the ref ignores it and then makes the ten count to give AMW the win. If you watch that Catatonic spot closely, it appears Skipper legit smacked his head off the back of the chair and got concussed. Not the best effort from these two teams, as we'll see, though its interesting to see the handcuffs come into play at the end here. A little foreshadowing in your booking is always a good thing. Still, the match wasn't nearly as good as it could have been given the talent involved. **
Dusty Rhodes beats Vince Russo in the safest bet since Fat Man and Little Boy were -1000 to beat Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Dusty comes out to gloat and books AMW vs. XXX in a Six Sides of Steel for Turning Point. He gets the crowd to chant TNA and then says "let them hear it all the way up North" as the WWE references just keep on coming.
Jeff Jarrett vs. Jeff Hardy - Ladder Match
Right off the bat Tenay goes on about the WWE, which is a prevalent theme tonight. I have to say, its really annoying and totally detracts from the product Tenay is SUPPOSED to be shilling for. I get making the odd mention to establish history, but Tenay goes way too far most of the time in his WWE felatio. There's a point in this match where Hardy, the supposed "Charismatic" Enigma, is so uncharismatic that some of the fans start cheering for Jarrett. You know what else this match has? Horribly contrived ladder spots that don't help tell any kind of story at all. I'm not a big fan of ladder matches at the best of times, but man does this one ever suck. However once Scott Hall comes out, the match descends into the greatest kind of insanity known to man. Hardy's already gotten into it with Hall on the floor and Hall's knocked down. Hardy and Jarrett head up a 20 foot ladder and eventually tip it over, where it lands RIGHT ON HALL! It's funny that a guy who wasn't in the actual match took the sickest bump.
Hold the phone, its Kevin Nash and what the hell is he wearing? He looks like Gator from The Other Guys and he's carrying two guitars, one of which he hands to Hall. Oh noez! Don't tell me Nash turned on Hardy? Yep, he did, and Jarett retains the belt in a total clusterfuck. Seriously, this was so overbooked it made my head spin and there was absolutely no momentum at all. *1/2
Nash cuts a promo where he makes some jokes about Hardy having a small penis (original, I know) and then babbles incoherently until he challenges some guys to come out from the back. AJ Styles comes out and takes on all three of them until he eats a boot from Nash. 3 Live Krew is out now and its turned into a total mess in the ring.
Suddenly the feet step out of the limo and then in the Impact Zone we get a horrible cover of "Pomp and Circumstance" before Macho Man Randy Savage comes out to what I'll call a mixed reaction. It's hard to blame the fans though, they just had to sit throught the idiocy of that main event, so I can see why they'd be a little demoralized. Savage tries to get into the ring as Tenay shills Impact on Thursday and we fade to black.
Overall, this was a pretty weak effort for their first PPV. Thankfully they'd pick up speed the following time around, but as the saying goes, you never get a second chance to make a first impression. There's some good here (AJ/Petey until the finish, Monsters Ball) but there's a lot more bad. Overall Rating 4/10.