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I can't believe as england fans we are supposed to see this game as a positive one we just about scraped a victory after coming from behind twice GTFO hodgson and bring in redknapp.

Lol what? Whilst I too would prefer Redknapp in charge, this is a good win, and a win we shouldn't bury Hodgson about. The players he used are players who have just got through pre-season, so complete match sharpness should never be expected. Furthermore, Scotland played well, and England showed courage to come back from behind twice. Also, we played the right way; we went down the possession route and playing on the floor. That's what we need to do against bigger teams.

It was a good win. We also hit the post, and their keeper made two really good saves. It could definitely have been more. Plus, one of the goals we conceded was a terrible goalkeeper mistake.
 

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I really think Hart should be dropped, he's made mistakes all through out the year.
 

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Lol what? Whilst I too would prefer Redknapp in charge, this is a good win, and a win we shouldn't bury Hodgson about. The players he used are players who have just got through pre-season, so complete match sharpness should never be expected. Furthermore, Scotland played well, and England showed courage to come back from behind twice. Also, we played the right way; we went down the possession route and playing on the floor. That's what we need to do against bigger teams.

It was a good win. We also hit the post, and their keeper made two really good saves. It could definitely have been more. Plus, one of the goals we conceded was a terrible goalkeeper mistake.

If we play with as many mistakes against a better side in a competitive match we won't win and saying the players are not 100% is no excuse as scotlands players were just in pre season as well.
Even are U21s smashed scotland we should be doing the same if we are the big team we believe we are (which i personally do not believe).
As for hart getting dropped there is no one to replace him yet jack butland in the future but he isn't ready yet he is very young and englands goalkeepers are always on under imense pressure if you look at what has happened to the last few like scot carrson,robert green and paul robinson they were all considered good keepers make one or two really bad mistakes and all there careers seem to go right down hill and i don't want that to happen to butland as he is a good young player.
 

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If we play with as many mistakes against a better side in a competitive match we won't win and saying the players are not 100% is no excuse as scotlands players were just in pre season as well.
Even are U21s smashed scotland we should be doing the same if we are the big team we believe we are (which i personally do not believe).
As for hart getting dropped there is no one to replace him yet jack butland in the future but he isn't ready yet he is very young and englands goalkeepers are always on under imense pressure if you look at what has happened to the last few like scot carrson,robert green and paul robinson they were all considered good keepers make one or two really bad mistakes and all there careers seem to go right down hill and i don't want that to happen to butland as he is a good young player.

The Scottish season has started, but regardless of that, it's still an excuse. You can't hate on England because they beat a tough Scottish side in pre-season, three days before their season starts.

Comparing our senior team to the U21 team is silly. It's irrelevant. They were playing against a Scottish U21 team that inevitably lacks the talent at that level that the English team has. Also, it was a match away from the spotlight, and we all know playing in front of 90,000+ in a massive stadium, with millions watching at home, is much different to playing in a sheltered stadium.

The scoreline didn't flatter England, but I thought England played well. As I said before, one of their goals shouldn't have gone in, they didn't create many chances at all, and their other goal was a piece of brilliance from a striker who is usually shit. Also, as I said before, we had one goal disallowed for being offside when it wasn't, one shot hit the post, and the keeper made two great saves. If luck was on our side then Hart wouldn't have made that mistake, our goal would have been allowed, the shot would have hit the post and went in, and their keeper wouldn't have made two great saves. That would make it 6-1 I believe. My point is, our performance was good going forward and a bit shaky defensively. I can get over that. Our squad isn't good enough to expect to beat Spain, Germany, or Brazil, we have fallen behind those teams, so stop expecting us to compete against them bro.
 

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Jason Steele >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack Butland btw, if anyone is going to be England's next goalkeeper it's him, Butland is ridiculously overrated, he was decent but not special in the Championship, whereas Steele could easily be playing for a top 6 team if given time. He's the best keeper I've ever seen at Boro, and that's saying a lot considering we had Schwarzer in his prime.