End All Be All Triple H Debate

[Kim Jong Umb]

(Not My opinion mostly devils advocate for the sake of the argument)

He is known as "The King Of Kings" "The Cerebral Assassin" "The Game" "The COO" "The Godfather Of NXT"

Hunter Hearst Helmsley Triple H was he really that damn good, or perhaps was he just that damn smart? Triple H has and will always have that * to his name about what he that good in the ring or was he a good politician a average wrestler with average skills able to position himself with just the right people just the right Clique to get his way to the top. The question then to be asked was he ever the top guy? I mean in the ninety's He was second fiddle to guys like Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon, Kevin Nash, with a blue blood snob gimmick. The form of D-X was it Triple H that made the group or again was it HBK I mean the start of it HBK was the leader the guy that was pushed the man that was going to be main eventing WrestleMania vs . Austin.


Then there is the whole thing about his "The Game" gimmick which was set and made for Owen Hart. Triple H friend retires and he then is dating the bosses daughter is it love or a plan set to get a push? He gets it but does HHH feel like hes the top guy? Austin, Rock, Undertaker, all three in front of him with guys like Jericho & Kane gaining steam.

2000's with him and Steph as the power couple but, again did he still feel like the top guy or was it because he was in a position with who he was dating who was injured or leaving the company?


Then there was Evolution

Was it really a mystery? Did Triple H set it up as a way to get guys to be under his thumb or was it really to buid new stars? I mean you did make them in both Orton & Batista but, at the cost of a thriving roster who came under the reign of terror known as Triple H WHC title run. The guy is handed the title and proceeds to...

Then there is the burials of guys like Booker T, RVD, Kane, Jericho, and so on defeated with the likes of Nash & Steiner in these feuds of a title reign that lasted to long.

Fast Forward to the future and other guys he buried and then the whole thing about getting the COO job it looked like HHH guys were the ones set up to succeed and others doom to fail. The retire comes somewhat and he then is still on TV as The Authority eventually winning WWE Title. Then the beginnings of NXT was this his way to cover up his past sins by putting this in front of our faces?

The truth is we don't really know and plenty of disgruntle workers can say what they like. Triple H was also a huge part of the attitude era being a main stay on TV forming The Clique, D-X he was Main Eventing winning championships building stars and is now paying it forward helping this new class of WWE superstars by giving a product that is better then its big brother & sister with Raw & SD. Triple H was also a freak of nature fighting through injuries. He had a long career won championships, is going to take the company to bigger heights fell in love had kids was building a better future.



So all that reamins is what you guys think.

Triple H a GOAT or GOAT Poltician and son on go on debate!​

 

[Chris]

He ain't called GOD around these parts for nothin'

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Triple H is only as good as the opponents he's working with.

If he's wrestling somebody who's a better worker than him, he'll have a fantastic match: I.E. Taker, Foley, Austin, Rock, Shawn

If he's wrestling somebody who's nowhere near as talented as him, he'll have an absolute stinker of a match: Steiner, Orton, Booker T, etc.

Surprisingly, his matches with Marc Mero are the stuff of legend, showing that Triple H can carry somebody to a good match if they have the right skillset.

 

[Deezy]

Been on the H-Train since i saw this

Only time I hopped off was the dX reunion in 06.

Plus he's friends with Lemmy who was God....they were besties and HHH has his last interview.....he's GOD now.

 

[Hoss]

Clearly one of the GOATs.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

I am more of a Triple H mark than even Austin or Rock and look how that turned out. He's know a McMahon runnin' the future in NXT and with constant input on the main shows too. He has one of this careers that hardwork proves you can do whatever you want. Pretty damn awesome run. I'd like to see a way to get Ciampa/Trips at Mania but since Ciampa is scared to wrestle on the main roster(even though he already has) this might be the one way to get his ass where he needs to be.

 

[Jimmy King]

One of my all time favorite matches has Triple H in it, the street fight with Foley at Rumble 2000. I loved his feud with Foley as well as the one with Stone Cold and even his feud with The Rock.

I have always liked Triple H though. Even during his reign of terror year in 2003, I was still on the bandwagon. I like what he’s done for the business today and has helped mold the future in NXT.

I know I’m in the minority on this but I enjoyed 06 DX

 

[Necro]

Always for the most part enjoyed Triple H's work. Always came off as someone who loved the business, and in his time was one of the few guys that wasn't junked up on pills, and drunk constantly. He's certainly a political figure, and knows how to position himself in the business. But at the end of the day I enjoyed a lot of his matches during his prime. His 25 minute Wrestlemania matches lately seem pretty unnecessary, but he's still a solid promo, and decent in the ring. Like many superstars in the past everyone "buries" someone. In my head the only people that think wins and losses don't matter are the people who are winning more than losing. If that even makes sense haha. And for anyone that had issues with his career at this point his help with NXT should have won them over.

 

[3 Minute Warning]

Never bought into his whole tough guy act. It's well known he's a puss and never been in a real fight with another wrestler, but he goes out and acts like he's the toughest man to ever walk the earth. His 20 min promos were the worst part of the Attitude and Ruthless Aggression eras. He's a good wrestler, but I always found Angle,Y2J,Eddie to be more entertaining and better wrestlers.


I hated DX and their childish suck it crap, and Evolution were as boring and bland a group as I've ever seen.

 

[Davey Wrestling]

Back in the day where he was the main guy, for me, he was boring to listen to and his matches were ok at best to watch.

Guys with his amount of longevity are always going to have something to pick at but usually you can point to some highlights too, HHH doesn't really have any.

Personally, I've always thought the entrance was better than the performer.

That said, in his current guise as the godfather of NXT, if (as seems to be the case) the way they're booking and running the show (tournaments and all) is coming from HHH, then I'm all aboard for this dude taking over from Vinny Mac as soon as possible.

 

[Deezy]

Triple H a puss......yeah ok pal.

Tear your quad on two seperate occasions and still run spots until the match is over when it was written to be.

 

[Necro]

If anything Shawn Michaels is a puss who got beat up everywhere he went. Of course he was also fucked up high all the time so he probably could barely pick up his head. With Triple H he was sober all the time, I'm sure he could hold his own in a bar fight.

 

[Requiredderiuqer]

I'm seriously conflicted on his case. I feel like he is underappreciated in respect to mic work, just like Rock tends to be underrated in respect to in-ring ability.

GOAT or GOAT politician; neither of them.

Triple H is only as good as the opponents he's working with.

If he's wrestling somebody who's a better worker than him, he'll have a fantastic match: I.E. Taker, Foley, Austin, Rock, Shawn

Interesting, I feel the same on Undertaker