You are talking about being or not being draws in the biggest company of them all. Granted, none of them were the biggest draws during their time
Exactly. Actually Sting was the top draw in WCW in the early 90’s, he just wasn’t a good draw. Nash was the champion for nearly all of 1995, and it was horrible time for the WWF.
(altough Nash being part of nWo
Proving he was never a good INDIVIDUAL draw. Hall and Nash might have been a slight help, as was the idea of the NWO as a whole, but if anyone deserves the credit for WCW’s success in the mid 90’s it’s Hulk Hogan. Without Hogan there is no way that the NWO would have been the success it was.
and Kurt Angle being a big part of the Attitude Era might create a new whole argument),
Al Snow was pretty damn popular during the attitude era as well. Want to give him credit for being a draw as well? Angle didn’t come into the WWE until November 99. The WWE was already incredibly hot at this point. There are at least 10 guys I can think of that deserve the credit for the WWE’s success during this era before Kurt Angle gets some.
but TNA is not WWE. That's like saying a midcard guy from WWE won't be a draw in, let's say ROH. Kurt Angle and likes are big fishes in small ponds. More than so, they are the reason people watch TNA,
There is no denying that either Kurt Angle or Sting are the top draw in TNA because of their name and their success in bigger organizations. But that doesn’t mean that they are good draws and it damn sure doesn’t mean that because they are in that organization that it should be beating a WWE product.
and they were a big part of why people watched WWE, so it's to be expected that he creates an impact enough that a company with him can battle with a company like ECW.
When has Kurt Angle EVER been a big reason why people tuned into the WWE? He was definitely over and added to the product, but he has never been the specific reason that a significant number of people tuned in to watch the product.
While it's a WWE product, when it's the last time WWE actually got behind ECW in a real effort to push it? That's like saying FCW is the top indy promotion just because it has the name of WWE behind it.Last time I checked, Sci Fi network treats ECW like trash, and it isn't really different by WWE. TNA SHOULD be beating ECW in ratings week in and week out.
I seen promotion of ECW this past Monday when they brought in guys from ECW. I seen the same on Smackdown this week. I seen promotion of ECW when I watched The Bash and seen the ECW championship defended, just like I see at nearly every WWE ppv. You can also see it being promoted on WWE.com. ECW doesn’t get the promotion that Raw and Smackdown get, but it still gets FAR more promotion than what Impact gets. When was the last time that you seen Impact promoted outside of on Spike TV? I guarantee you that there are more people that know ECW exists than TNA, thanks to it being a WWE product.
Besides, you are saying that people watch something just for the sake of it being WWE. I believe people watch the show for the people on it,
It’s part of it. There are definitely fans out there that are hardcore fans of the WWE that will watch any program they put out. But more than that it’s because of the difference in promotion. While ECW isn’t promoted by the WWE as heavily as Raw and Smackdown, they still promote it more than TNA promotes Impact.
and when you compare the people in TNA to the people in ECW, well, it all sums itself...
This proves my point. TNA has bigger stars than ECW, but doesn’t get as many viewers because not as many people are even aware of the product.
1) TNA is in a bigger network than Smackdown, to which far more people have access.
Like I have been saying, far more people are aware of Smackdown than they are of Impact.
2) The star power in both shows is practically equal.
That’s a bit of a stretch. Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho and Edge are bigger stars than anyone aside from Kurt Angle in TNA. That’s not including the Undertaker who is out with an injury. I would have put Sting in the conversation but despite him still being incredibly popular with the TNA audience, I’m not sure how many fans out there really know Sting from his WCW days.
I think it all comes to the fact that you seem to believe that people will watch something just for it being WWE, totally overlooking the people on it.You're basically saying people want to see Yoshi Tatsu over Sting just because Yoshi Tatsu is wrestling in a "WWE ring", and a find that total bogus.
I have addressed this several times now in this post. I just find it funny that you would use Yoshi Tatsu as an example. I don’t watch ECW so to be honest, I have never even heard of Yoshi Tatsu as I’m assuming he was one of the guys that debuted this week.
As for the whole "TNA has only seven years" deal and so it's OK for it to not make jump. TNA has some of the biggest names in history,
Biggest names in history? Again, that’s a bit of a stretch. Sting is really the only guy that you will go down as one of the biggest names in history. Maybe you can throw in Steiner for his tag work. But guys like Nash and Angle will be remembered as fairly big stars during their time, but never THE guy during their time.
them being draws is another argument, but when it's all said and done they will be in the biggest names of wrestling list, and you're telling me than just because TNA hasn't been 10 more years around it's OK for them to lose a ratings war against a glorified developmental territory? I see where you are coming with "it's WWE!!!", but it's just too much.
We are talking about a company that has been around for over 50 years and has had plenty of main stream exposure, to a company that has been around for 7 years and has had next to no main stream except for bringing in Pacman Jones (did anyone care about that?). They might be the third biggest show in the company, but it’s the biggest company in the world.
I don’t watch much TNA, but I think they are doing fine and growing a very good rate. I think people should get out of the Monday night wars way of thinking about and stop trying to compare the ratings between the two companies. Granted TNA is a big reason behind it and this article is proof of that, but I don’t really buy half the stuff TNA says when it comes to ratings. IMO they over exaggerate as a way of promotion and a way to get people talking about the idea of a ratings war, despite the fact that there really isn’t a serious ratings war. If you watch Kurt Angle’s shoot interview he says basically that when asked about all the times he said TNA would be competing with the WWE by now.
Did any of you actually READ the article? lol.
How about reading the bolded part right there? TNA is not setting its sights on beating ECW, it already has.
How about doing a little research before posting? If you had you would realize that TNA isn’t beating ECW. They have on a few occasions, but definitely not consistently. Both have come out on top at different points this year, but for the most part they have been about neck and neck.
Here.
http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/tna-ratings/
http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-ratings/
