DirecTV & Spike TV Issues, TNA Urges Fans To Call DirecTV

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Looks like no impact this Thursday which sucks for poor Austin.

Wait, what? They are canceling the show because DirecTV won't air it?

 

[Crayo]

Wait, what? They are canceling the show because DirecTV won't air it?

Since Viacom, the parent company of SpikeTV, and DirecTV could not come to terms on a new carriage deal for their networks, the channels are now dark on the nation's second largest cable TV carrier. That means no TNA this week for those that use the service unless a deal is made before Thursday at 7 p.m. ET.

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Since Viacom, the parent company of SpikeTV, and DirecTV could not come to terms on a new carriage deal for their networks, the channels are now dark on the nation's second largest cable TV carrier. That means no TNA this week for those that use the service unless a deal is made before Thursday at 7 p.m. ET.

Doesn't that mean the show will happen, just not be shown on Direct TV?

 

[Crayo]

Yeah, which is their largest outlet IIRC. Meaning hundreds of thousands won't see it.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I have DirecTV and I will see the show just fine. It will lower their ratings but most TNA fans who have DirecTV will still either stream the show or find it online after the fact.

 

[Crayo]

"Most..." how do you know lol? This is a biiiiigg deal. It's not like "Oh that's cool they'll stream it". This is a ton of money lost for TNA, a massive amount of casual fans missing the show which can easily lead to forgetting about TNA and not being bothered to keep up with the story.

DirecTV sound like smurfs but Viacom should have (from the looks of it) tried harder to keep them happy.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I always side with DirecTV because they always wind up winning lol. Viacom is stupid if they think they will win this battle of who can hold out longer with DirecTV. And it's just the way you worded it originally of 'no Impact, sucks for Austin' that was weird to me.

And I say most because TNA's fanbase is predictable. They are not casual fans, they are for the most part loyal TNA nut swingers and very smarkish. They will find a way to watch the episode. Also I say at most one episode will be cut off. If this isn't resolved by tomorrow night (which it very likely could be) it will absolutely be fixed by next Thursday. I've seen this time after time with DirecTV. No need to blow this out of proportion.

 

[Crayo]

I always side with DirecTV because they always wind up winning lol. Viacom is stupid if they think they will win this battle of who can hold out longer with DirecTV. And it's just the way you worded it originally of 'no Impact, sucks for Austin' that was weird to me.

And I say most because TNA's fanbase is predictable. They are not casual fans, they are for the most part loyal TNA nut swingers and very smarkish. They will find a way to watch the episode. Also I say at most one episode will be cut off. If this isn't resolved by tomorrow night (which it very likely could be) it will absolutely be fixed by next Thursday. I've seen this time after time with DirecTV. No need to blow this out of proportion.

Said it sucks for Austin because he's going to have most of the TNA fans not watching his first impact after the historic and awesome victory over Roode. Especially since it's the first impact after the PPV. Tbh it sucks for TNA in total, their best PPV of the year and this happens. Also, what proof do you have that most TNA fans are nut swingers and smarkish? That's just a wild guess, lol. It probably will be fixed by next Thursday, but I'm not blowing it out of proportion at all, this is a big deal. TNA have already had Hulk and Dixie beg fans to ring DirecTV and complain, if it was as chill as you make it to be that wouldn't happen lmao.

Most people know TNA aren't exactly bathing in money. Their biggest source if income most likely is advertisements right? If the ratings are piss poor, they'll be getting fuck all in comparison to their usual.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Yawn. Like I said I've seen this happen dozens of times since around 1998 when my Dad first switched us to DirecTV. It will all blow over.

as far as TNA fans all being smarks and not casuals, I have my reasons for feeling this way. 1.) Message board posters. 2.) PPV buys- everyone streams TNA PPVs, casual mouth breathers aren't smart enough for this (see: WWE's PPV buys despite an awful product). 3.) Ratings. They always hover between .9s and 1.1s. They clearly have a core, loyal fanbase even if it's a relatively small one. If they were drawing in casual fans for any reason ratings would be increasing; they don't.

 

[Crayo]

You don't get it. It'll blow over, but atm this is bad news. You think TNA and its investors see this as chill as you?

Lol'd at message board posters. You have no proof that everyone streams TNA PPV's despite low PPV buys count, you can blame it on them always having the same PPV match on the next impact. Also, you can be a casual fan and watch the show weekly... just letting you know. For example my sister watches Eastenders weekly, but if she has to miss it she doesn't care, then she tends to not watch it for a few weeks as she's out of the loop and randomly gets back into it at some point.

Either way, it's not as chill as you want it to be. But dw, Randy Savage's prediction isn't happening.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Of course TNA/Spike/Viacom isn't as chill about it as I am. It's their job to be worried about it and/or to get things resolved. I'm not them though, so there is no reason for me or any other fan to be anything but chill. Trust me, this won't be an extended scenario. It will be fixed by this time next week, and that's the worst case scenario.

 

[Snowman1]

If you go to a WWE Live Event, you get obnoxious little kids starting Cena chants at Smackdown shows.
If you go to a TNA Live Event, you find smarks who you can actually hold an intelligent conversation with. At the tapings in Knoxville the fans were cheering Austin Aries (until he grabbed Sorenson's football and gave a Heisman pose... the crowd really turned on that), gave Samoa Joe a huge pop, were hot as hell for Roode and Storm and not so much for Sting, booed the everliving fuck out of Hulk Hogan's fake ass "retirement"... At the last WWE event here (the one with the Mason Ryan heel turn), apparently the crowd was really hot for Cena and nothing else. TNA just attracts a different audience.

That was my first clue. All of Dolph's's points (except maybe the message board thing) still hold true as well, plus I never bothered thinking about looking up wrestling online until early 2010 and didn't know TNA existed until then. That's why we bitch about them not advertising, because they can't draw ratings if nobody knows the show exists.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

That's another point about casual vs smark. If you are a casual WWE fan you probably have either never heard of TNA, or have barely heard of them and don't even know what channel they are on. Smarks are the only ones who care enough to find out about when it's on and to tune in (because obviously you won't find out offhand from someone or from TNA advertising)

 

[Bort]

Hogan is still teh king of promos. YAPPAPIE!

 

[Crayo]

If you go to a WWE Live Event, you get obnoxious little kids starting Cena chants at Smackdown shows.
If you go to a TNA Live Event, you find smarks who you can actually hold an intelligent conversation with. At the tapings in Knoxville the fans were cheering Austin Aries (until he grabbed Sorenson's football and gave a Heisman pose... the crowd really turned on that), gave Samoa Joe a huge pop, were hot as hell for Roode and Storm and not so much for Sting, booed the everliving F*** out of Hulk Hogan's fake ass "retirement"... At the last WWE event here (the one with the Mason Ryan heel turn), apparently the crowd was really hot for Cena and nothing else. TNA just attracts a different audience.

All wrong. There's simply more casuals than smarks in WWE crowds, but more smarks in WWE than TNA. You can not compare IZ crowds to 20,000 seater crowds.

You should have worded it: "If you go to a WWE live event, you will find little kids chanting Cena chants, amongst adults booing him. In some cities, the chants are louder than the boo's. In other cities, the boo's are louder than the chants".

Not sure how any of this has any relevance to this thread at all though. The smark:casual ratio in TNA will obviously be different than WWE's if that's what you're trying to say.