Difference between Jeff and Ken

[Kaptain KnicKy]

This is a question that arose after watching No Mercy 08 - Trips V Hardy.

With all the latest commotion over Edge being new champion, and what everyone thinks should be the WM25 ME, people all seem to feel that Jeff Hardy is not ME quality. No I'm not completely convinced that he's not ME quality, but this is the question...

WM23 Ken Kennedy won the MiTB contract and declared that he would go to WM24 and challenge the champion - so we had our WM24 main event set in stone! It was going to be Ken Kennedy going into Mania and (95% of) winning the championship! So what is the difference between Ken Kennedy, of 2007 and Jeff Hardy of 2008?

Mr Kennedy, at that point had his share of fueds with big names, and was going to be pushed into WM24 as a heel to win the title.

Jeff Hardy has been going after the WWE Title since, pretty much, Royal Rumble 07! He's been on the tip of winning the title and come so close several times; both against Trips and Orton. The roof was blown off the arena at Survivor Series this year when he made his run in.

So what exactly made everyone feel comfortable with Mr Kennedy going into Wrestlemania 24 to win the title, when you don't want Jeff Hardy going into a title match (not even a 1V1 match...)?

Jeff Hardy is fucking over with the crowd, you cannot argue that. He's been pushed hard over the last couple of months, where has WWE gone wrong that you don't feel he is Mania ME material?

Kennedy came out of some fueds on RAW and SD against some big names, HBK and Taker popping into mind, and came out both of those with overall losses - he was, and this is my personal opinion, stale and getting worse, and kept getting injured (atmiddley not the best point to bring up, i know).

 

[The Shua]

The difference between Kennedy and Hardy is that Kennedy hasn't been busted for various things over the course of his career.

The difference between Kennedy and Hardy is that an injury ruined Kennedy's chances at getting his title shot. Hardy ruined his own chances with another drug slip up.

If I recall correctly, Hardy has one strike left before he gets the boot for a second time. Kennedy only has one strike against him. Personally, I think it's only a matter of time before Hardy starts wrestling on the Indies.

 

[X-Sterl-X]

ya hardy deserves all the credit in the world for putting up with all the screwjob storylines and last second s***, hardy may be the most over face on smackdown over hhh and taker and possibly even in the WWE. So my question is really why hasn't the guy won the thing already, hes stayed clean (lately), people love him not like cena were just 6 year olds do, and he has not complained a bit since his last suspension about his belated championship reign... come on Vince, give the kid a break! also i will add rep to you for bringing up an excellent point

 

[Kaptain KnicKy]

The difference between Kennedy and Hardy is that Kennedy hasn't been busted for various things over the course of his career.

The difference between Kennedy and Hardy is that an injury ruined Kennedy's chances at getting his title shot. Hardy ruined his own chances with another drug slip up.

If I recall correctly, Hardy has one strike left before he gets the boot for a second time. Kennedy only has one strike against him. Personally, I think it's only a matter of time before Hardy starts wrestling on the Indies.

So you, yourself, are saying that YOU dont think Hardy deserves to be in the WM ME scene because he's made some mistakes in his life? You're saying that he doesn't deserve to be in the ME despite how freakin' over he is with the fans, with his in-ring improvements?

I'm not the biggest Jeff fan, but you didnt really answer this properly, and if you did - it's a sad reason.

I didnt mean to ask why you think he hasnt been in the ME at WM, but why you think he doesnt deserve to be in the ME at WM...

 

[Kizza]

Jeff actually has fans that care. None of the crowd cared about Kennedy when he returned. Jeff is probably in the top 5 most over guys in WWE. So what if Jeff has made some fuck up's in his life? I would bet that the house burning down really gave him a kick up the arse and get his act together. He most likely understands that if he ever wants to be WWE champion, he needs to prove to Vince and everybody at WWE that he can be trusted as Smackdown's top guy. I say WWE should take a punt on him, I know it's risky, but it could pay off big time.

Kennedy is so overrated by his fans it's not funny. He has medicore at best ring skills, and his mic work is bloody overrated to hell. At least Jeff has a certain talent at being able to entertain a crowd with his wrestling, no matter how refined his skills are. Jeff connects with the fans on a much higher level then Kennedy. And whenever Kennedy looks like getting a push he gets injured. They obviously had big plans for him, I mean, giving him MITB. And what happens? He gets injured! A Person who get injured like half the time and more untrustworthy then a man I believe has kicked his habit.

 

[MikeRaw]

Kennedy and Jeff are both talented. However, Kennedy is only over if he is getting a massive push either as heel or face. But he needs a main event push for people to back him.
Jeff is over even if he's on the first match of the card, fighting Kung Fu Naki.

And most people, myself included, do feel he is main event material. He is over enough for it, a big enough name for it, and ready to have a title, so that's all good. The only thing some people worry about, is, if it's a singles match, they don't want it to turn into a sloppy match so the solution is to put it in a TLC match or something like that.

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

The difference between Kennedy and Hardy is that Kennedy hasn't been busted for various things over the course of his career.

The difference between Kennedy and Hardy is that an injury ruined Kennedy's chances at getting his title shot. Hardy ruined his own chances with another drug slip up.

If I recall correctly, Hardy has one strike left before he gets the boot for a second time. Kennedy only has one strike against him. Personally, I think it's only a matter of time before Hardy starts wrestling on the Indies.

Pro Wrestling Illustrated would tend to agree with your one sided view on this.

You know what the difference is? Hardy is worth giving two shits about. Kennedy is the most overrated piece of shit to grace the planet.

 

[Airfixx]

The only thing some people worry about, is, if it'ds a singles match, they don't want it to turn into a sloppy match

Why do you insist on speaking on behalf of everyone else?

so the solution is to put it in a TLC match or something like that.

You can't make every damn world title match a Hardy-compatible spot-fest.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but when winning MITB you have a year to cash in which means you must use it before the next WM starts.

Before WM24 Kennedy was saying he'd cash in on the night (meaning WM24) if he won that years MITB - @ Knicky: are you confusing this with last year and his actual MITB win?

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when winning MITB you have a year to cash in which means you must use it before the next WM starts.

Before WM24 Kennedy was saying he'd cash in on the night (meaning WM24) if he won that years MITB - Knicky, are you confusing this with last year and his actual MITB win?

No, Kennedy was going to cash in his briefcase at WM, or so he was telling us. He even had the countdown thing, much like the Honk-o-meter.

You see WWE says you have a year to cash it in, but what Lillian says is something about being able to last cash it in at next hear's WM when she goes through the rules of the match at the actual WrestleMania.

The other problem with the one year concept is that WrestleMania changes dates more than just by one day every year, as it can move backwards and forwards a few weeks.

Thus why WWE officially announce it differently.

 

[Airfixx]

^^^Wasn't watching WWE-TV for much of last year so cheers for setting me straight.

So you can effectively choose to cash in at 1 of 2 Manias or any night in between. Seems a bit silly to me, but hey WWE are kings of their own logic.

 

[The Showstopper]

Hardy does drugs.

Kennedy gets injured.

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Hardy does drugs.

Kennedy gets injured.

I didn't know steroids weren't drugs. Thanks for letting me in on that.

 

[The Showstopper]

^Ok ok, you got me.

Anywho, Mr. Kennedy needs to turn face since he got a pretty good crowd reaction on Raw. Jeff as heel would be pretty cool too.

 

[Airfixx]

^^^Christ! Have you NO idea what 'on topic' means?

p.s. Kennedy IS currently a face!

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

^Ok ok, you got me.

Anywho, Mr. Kennedy needs to turn face since he got a pretty good crowd reaction on Raw. Jeff as heel would be pretty cool too.

Kennedy is a face ...

Considering Jeff gets the biggest pops in the E right now, I wouldn't turn him.