Death on the Nile [A Detective Adventure Part II]

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Ekkologix

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TP rolecopping Ace night 1 and just happen to catch him before he made a spectacle out of day 2 would be tremendous luck. I’m leaning on probably not.
bad analysis

its improbable but not because of luck, rather because tpein wud be taking HUGE risk assuming the real cop does not cc him. unless we r speculating town has no real cop and its tpeins fake claim. in that event fk this game
 

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like from my pov theres 3 reasonable ways to looks at tpeing

1 - rolecopping liar
2 - telling the truth and also got a false result - as i know im town
3 - telling the truth but result got messed with - unlikely as he stated my name was said

so really thats a 1 or a 2 for me , there is no real other explanation afaik
 

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bad analysis

its improbable but not because of luck, rather because tpein wud be taking HUGE risk assuming the real cop does not cc him. unless we r speculating town has no real cop and its tpeins fake claim. in that event fk this game
or as i said above, there is NO realcop AND tpein is ALSO a town insane variant wtv cop. which is also sadly a possibility we have to look at since its clear this game is not a traditional one
 

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yall figure it out yourselves i got dnd session in a bit ciao

these mechanics r just gna ruin the game
 

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or as i said above, there is NO realcop AND tpein is ALSO a town insane variant wtv cop. which is also sadly a possibility we have to look at since its clear this game is not a traditional one

Guess we have to flip you to find out then.
*shrugs*
 
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its this possibility:

1. u rolecop ace cuz he hinted at vig
2. u learn that he is inverse cop
3. u fake another cop (which btw shouldnt make sense because then the real sane cop can counter claim u if there was one hmm)
4. u enjoy the free mchenry lynch then lynch jeff then lynch ace then get lynched after 3 mislynches


okay this is a bit of a long reach due to step 3

@Red Dragon thoughts on step 3
step 3 and what juice decided on mechanically/balance makes it tougher to make it fit, which again as i said, still leaves an opening for pein to be wrong AND town
 

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im obviously going to defend myself from suspicion when im town, so no shit. i never explicitly said not to believe his results or he has to be scum but i did offer a reason why he could be scum. quite clearly and both HAZA and EKKO have brought up the same points. so im not sure where ugot off trying to paint me as trying to be defencive when ive actually considered many options already this night phase. its seems like YOU want the pieces to fit neatlu for me, from my pov.

in either case, in no world should i be getting lynched over the people in 3, unles ur going me OR tpein. and quite frankly, i wouldnt lynch tpein tomorrow, either. not first.

Obviously you’re going to say that we shouldn’t lynch you, but why would someone in our position not do that?

More importantly, why are you not calling for Pein’s head? He’s said you’re mafia. Not just accused you or suspected you, he said he’s checked you and a mafia result was returned. So I’m very surprised you’re not trying to throw doubt on the validity of what he’s said, other than stating that you’re town, which everyone is going to say anyway. I can’t see why you wouldn’t have pushed that from the minute that he revealed his investigation result.

From the rest of our perspective, why wouldn’t we want to verify his claim? To me, the fact that we’ve already had one investigation turn out to be wrong makes it seem MORE likely that the other is right.

Again, you’re trying to turn it away from yourself and you’ve explicitly said that in this post. Your defence seems like it is nothing more than you say you’re town and that we should look elsewhere.
 

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Obviously you’re going to say that we shouldn’t lynch you, but why would someone in our position not do that?

More importantly, why are you not calling for Pein’s head? He’s said you’re mafia. Not just accused you or suspected you, he said he’s checked you and a mafia result was returned. So I’m very surprised you’re not trying to throw doubt on the validity of what he’s said, other than stating that you’re town, which everyone is going to say anyway. I can’t see why you wouldn’t have pushed that from the minute that he revealed his investigation result.

From the rest of our perspective, why wouldn’t we want to verify his claim? To me, the fact that we’ve already had one investigation turn out to be wrong makes it seem MORE likely that the other is right.

Again, you’re trying to turn it away from yourself and you’ve explicitly said that in this post. Your defence seems like it is nothing more than you say you’re town and that we should look elsewhere.
Based af
 

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Even if Pein used a role cop on Ace, would he have seen that Ace was an inverse cop? Ace certainly didn’t seem to know that he was one.
 

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Obviously you’re going to say that we shouldn’t lynch you, but why would someone in our position not do that?

More importantly, why are you not calling for Pein’s head? He’s said you’re mafia. Not just accused you or suspected you, he said he’s checked you and a mafia result was returned. So I’m very surprised you’re not trying to throw doubt on the validity of what he’s said, other than stating that you’re town, which everyone is going to say anyway. I can’t see why you wouldn’t have pushed that from the minute that he revealed his investigation result.

From the rest of our perspective, why wouldn’t we want to verify his claim? To me, the fact that we’ve already had one investigation turn out to be wrong makes it seem MORE likely that the other is right.

Again, you’re trying to turn it away from yourself and you’ve explicitly said that in this post. Your defence seems like it is nothing more than you say you’re town and that we should look elsewhere.
1 - because theres other things to look at quite clearly and theres a ton of mechanical moving parts. you cant just take tpeins word, theres no reason to actually 10% believe that, so im not sure where u getting this from

2- ive explained multiple theories about pein already, dont think i need to repeat them. also how could i possibly be going after him at night? i went for him hard during day phase, then mchenry flipped town and ace got killed and we saw his flip. i obviously had way of knowing either of these things would happen so quite clearly im going to have a more open mind on what possibly happened. but ya, i did call for peins head and called him a liar when he originally accused me. this notion i didnt go after him at all is quite false and there was multiple exchanges u clearly omitted to read or acknowledge.

im not turning myself from anything either, im directly answering your post. ive also explained why looking elsewhere, such as in your direction, is obviously better. none of what you said actually makes me scum or dismisses any point ive made on the game state. this is vey disingenuous and skipping quite a few details in thread, not to mention ignoring a large bulk of my phase 2 and night phase posts.
 

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Even if Pein used a role cop on Ace, would he have seen that Ace was an inverse cop? Ace certainly didn’t seem to know that he was one.

@Red Dragon @Ekkologix comment on this please.

Why would a mafia role cop become privy to a part of a player’s role that they themselves are not aware of?