Death on the Nile [A Detective Adventure Part II]

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Unless I’m misunderstanding Henry was given three names and one of them are scum and your name was in that list or am I mistaken? This day has been a whole lot.

You also gave him that list so that would be a weird scum role, though.
negative. he was giving three names from ME caroling him ( wasnt told the names until he said it in thread). the names were sis abi, holt and mando. henry has flipped town so unless you think i could fake my role completely magically, we have to 100% believe that one of those is 100% scum

tpein claims to have copped me (he said so after ace claimed) , ace flipped a weird cop variant so my suposition is that they rolecopped ace n1. because obviously i know im town (or tpein is getting bad results, too if town)
 
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Unless I’m misunderstanding Henry was given three names and one of them are scum and your name was in that list or am I mistaken? This day has been a whole lot.

You also gave him that list so that would be a weird scum role, though.
well in the offchance here jeff flips mafia that entire result is compromised
 

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no is buying me as mafia except maybe tpein and haza, whos questioning him now. this looks bad for u

So you think we shouldn’t believe Pein’s claim? Why shouldn’t we?

If Pein is mafia, what is the play to make the same claim as Ace who comes out with information that Pein would know to be wrong? Why muddy the waters like that?

Also, Pein said multiple times that he was also claiming cop and not saying that Ace wasn’t one. He was going with the multiple cops theory. He wasn’t fully countering Ace.

You’re basically saying that we as town have one inverse cop, which we’ll only know to be true if we mislynch someone based on their information and then the likely course would be to lynch that inverse cop next. People can say whatever they want about set up, but I don’t believe any hosts sets a game up to be that anti-town.

You can talk about your role and how it is a pseudo-cop, but that means we have to believe that you didn’t know which names McHenry would get and that you yourself can’t pick and choose them and then say that one is mafia.

I can’t see what kind of play Pein would be making if mafia, because with them knowing that a town player had been already checked as mafia, there’s no point in him making the same play.

So I read this post as you trying to turn things away from yourself by saying I should be in there because I’m believing the most believable option at the moment. It fits as well, if I am right about you planting those names to McHenry and trying to set me up as a lynch target as a result.
 

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ofcourse u figure it out first u have the role. i dont. this is very unfair to me

i have no reason to consider the host will randomly do 2 cops of opposite polarities. i do not have the info u have. this is for u and ace to figure out and tell us

Wrong.
He already flipped and you are continuing to push this "i am the mafia role cop" thing.
Literally why would I claim here?
Mc wasnt even scum...
 

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negative. he was giving three names from ME caroling him ( wasnt told the names until he said it in thread). the names were sis abi, holt and mando. henry has flipped town so unless you think i could fake my role completely magically, we have to 100% believe that one of those is 100% scum

tpein claims to have copped me (he said so after ace claimed) , ace flipped a weird cop variant so my suposition is that they rolecopped ace n1. because obviously i know im town (or tpein is getting bad results, too if town)

Henry corroborated your role so you’re definitely not lying. Would also as I said be a weird choice for scum roles so I’m with you. So our choices are Sis, Holt and Mando? Holy shit, Holt is playing this game? Jesus.

Also, never seen a game with these cop variants, but I’ve heard of them and we know Ace was one. The question becomes was Juice banking on Ace figuring it out and working out results by inverting them so no real cop?
 
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Wrong.
He already flipped and you are continuing to push this "i am the mafia role cop" thing.
Literally why would I claim here?
Mc wasnt even scum...
its this possibility:

1. u rolecop ace cuz he hinted at vig
2. u learn that he is inverse cop
3. u fake another cop (which btw shouldnt make sense because then the real sane cop can counter claim u if there was one hmm)
4. u enjoy the free mchenry lynch then lynch jeff then lynch ace then get lynched after 3 mislynches


okay this is a bit of a long reach due to step 3

@Red Dragon thoughts on step 3
 

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So you think we shouldn’t believe Pein’s claim? Why shouldn’t we?

If Pein is mafia, what is the play to make the same claim as Ace who comes out with information that Pein would know to be wrong? Why muddy the waters like that?

Also, Pein said multiple times that he was also claiming cop and not saying that Ace wasn’t one. He was going with the multiple cops theory. He wasn’t fully countering Ace.

You’re basically saying that we as town have one inverse cop, which we’ll only know to be true if we mislynch someone based on their information and then the likely course would be to lynch that inverse cop next. People can say whatever they want about set up, but I don’t believe any hosts sets a game up to be that anti-town.

You can talk about your role and how it is a pseudo-cop, but that means we have to believe that you didn’t know which names McHenry would get and that you yourself can’t pick and choose them and then say that one is mafia.

I can’t see what kind of play Pein would be making if mafia, because with them knowing that a town player had been already checked as mafia, there’s no point in him making the same play.

So I read this post as you trying to turn things away from yourself by saying I should be in there because I’m believing the most believable option at the moment. It fits as well, if I am right about you planting those names to McHenry and trying to set me up as a lynch target as a result.
im obviously going to defend myself from suspicion when im town, so no shit. i never explicitly said not to believe his results or he has to be scum but i did offer a reason why he could be scum. quite clearly and both HAZA and EKKO have brought up the same points. so im not sure where ugot off trying to paint me as trying to be defencive when ive actually considered many options already this night phase. its seems like YOU want the pieces to fit neatlu for me, from my pov.

in either case, in no world should i be getting lynched over the people in 3, unles ur going me OR tpein. and quite frankly, i wouldnt lynch tpein tomorrow, either. not first.
 

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Henry corroborated your role so you’re definitely not lying. Would also as I said be a weird choice for scum roles so I’m with you. So our choices are Sis, Holt and Mando? Holy shit, Holt is playing this game? Jesus.

Also, never seen a game with these cop variants, but I’ve heard of them and we know Ace was one. The question becomes was Juice banking on Ace figuring it out and working out results by inverting them so no real cop?
well tpein is claiming cop variant too, so that would imply there is a third cop in the latter part ofd your statement.
 

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if tpein rolecopped ace and is faking cop then maybe he had a cop fake claim already given to him by host and we do not have a real cop

anyway its all bastard speculations

lets play the game without thag

@T-Pein™ what r ur reads rn. cop results aside
 

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TP rolecopping Ace night 1 and just happen to catch him before he made a spectacle out of day 2 would be tremendous luck. I’m leaning on probably not.
 

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its this possibility:

1. u rolecop ace cuz he hinted at vig
2. u learn that he is inverse cop
3. u fake another cop (which btw shouldnt make sense because then the real sane cop can counter claim u if there was one hmm)
4. u enjoy the free mchenry lynch then lynch jeff then lynch ace then get lynched after 3 mislynches


okay this is a bit of a long reach due to step 3

@Red Dragon thoughts on step 3

If I "rolecopped him" then I am aware multiple cops are at play...
Why try to lynch jeff instead of mcnight who was town?
Just let mc get lynched and then push ace marvel is the play


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