Dana White vs Vince McMahon.

[He who knows more than Nation]

It freakin is. Who are you trying to kid. Every sport is repetitive, but UFC more than the others.

BTW, instead of taking this off topic with personal biases, why don't we discuss the topic at hand. Who's the better business man? It doesn't matter how you feel about the products offered by either, who is better at their job?

 

[J...]

It doesn't matter what the product is. Real or fake doesn't matter when you are negating the question you asked. You asked who is the better business man. Vince, it's his company. Dana is an employee of the UFC. Plus, not to piss off UFC fans, but how many fights that go beyond one round are exciting? Not many. I'd rather watch fake wrestling than boring ass mat and ground stuff. 7 out of 10 UFC fights are boring as fuck. Boxing KILLS UFC in excitement and toughness. But again, that has nothing to do with the product or personal tastes. Dana just simply hasn't done half the business that Vince has. Not. Even. Close. And if you are going to let personal bias get in the way, why answer the question. Why even ask it?

I don't have personal bias, If I did it would be towards WWE as I grew up watching it. I actually enjoy most of the matches that go past round 1 as thats were most of the true skill takes place. I like any fan love seeing someone get the shit pounded out of them but the best fights are the ones that go to the judges and end in split decision. To get back on topic you said Vince makes Icon's, thats not what Dana's out to do, hes not handed actors he's handed fighters and has to turn them into stars. He's done that Chuck Liddell you mentioned is alot more famous then you give him credit for. You can ask alot of people if they know who he is and they'll be like "Hell yea the Iceman". Just because he's not out there Dwayne Johnsoning it up doesn't mean he's not a household name. You also mentioned clothing and stuff like that. WWE has there own brand granted but UFC has taken brands like Affliction and Tapout and made them universal. I can garuntee you will go out and see alot more Tapout shirts then wrestling ones. On top of that has WWE ever had a PPV even come close to grossing as much as UFC?

 

[-TJ-]

It freakin is. Who are you trying to kid. Every sport is repetitive, but UFC more than the others.

BTW, instead of taking this off topic with personal biases, why don't we discuss the topic at hand. Who's the better business man? It doesn't matter how you feel about the products offered by either, who is better at their job?

Fine... I already said Dana. I'm curious to see if you agree to my reasoning in my post explaining why I chosed Dana.

 

[J...]

Please tell me your not saying UFC is more repetative then WWE, cause that would honestly be your worst post ever. Please explain?

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

^^^^^ Um, yes, it's called WrestleMania. They've done anywhere from 800,000 to 1 million plus every year for the last ten years. UFC has done that twice. Monthly, the UFC wins. But again, wrestling has been over exposed for 20 years, UFC is in a boom period. And trust me, way more people outside of the 20-30 year old MALE demographic know who John Cena is than Chuck Lidell, and then there's Rock and Austin. The UFC star fades fast. And you're clothing argument only applies to our demographic. For every wannabe tough guy (and that's what most UFC fanboys are) wearing TapOut shirts, I see as many children wearing wrestling shirts. Plus the stadium merchandise sold kills UFC hands down. And then there's the DVDs where WWE dvds outsell UFC offerings 5:1 and occupy 17 of the top 20 best selling sports DVD spots of the year for the past six years.

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

Fine... I already said Dana. I'm curious to see if you agree to my reasoning in my post explaining why I chosed Dana.

I respect your opinion. I agree with what you said, but to be a better business man you have to do more than be a savvy PR guy. He changed the face and somewhat public perception of the UFC. That's good. I gave him due respect. But how does that make him a better business man? Vince kept his company going after all the steroid scandals of the 90s and of lately and after Benoit. Same difference. Vince has taken his company into other successful avenues, he has published New York Times Bestsellers, always makes a profit off of his movies, has like five platinum CDs under the WWF/E banner and his company is the undisputed king of Sports DVDs. He's reshaped his company many times and has been successful doing it every time. And he's done it about twenty years longer. Maybe once the UFC bubble busts and Dana finally has some adversity to deal with, then maybe you can compare him to Vince, but there's no way you can really tell me a guy who's riding a fad and done a great job for 7 years equates to a man that has gone in different ventures with one product that has been over exposed and dealt with many down turns in business. Not at all. It's a time will tell thing, but as of now, it's Vince in a rape of OZ proportions.

 

[-TJ-]

Hmm you really are a good debater... My opinion has been changed, but I'm now going to leave this be and my vote is none of them. I will let time tell who's better.

 

[-Constantine]

I think Dana has proven he's a more than capable opponent to Vince. I vote Dana White.

 

[NinoBrown]

Vince. Vince gives his superstars the time to promote themselves to the audiences, 2-3 times a week. They're more exposed since they're on the road at various locations doing shows. Since his superstars don't have much down time to heal from injury, they're seen by more WWE fans. Wrestling is a storyline that happens from the promos to the highlight packages to the match itself. The matches can go on for whoever long Vince decides to.

UFC now, we get a GSP fight once maybe twice a year. Sure UFC is the big thing right now but for all those fans of GSP they're gonna have to wait a matter of months before he fights again. The problem I personally have with the UFC, is they don't have enough star power. If they expect to get high volumes of viewers every month, you need names to bring them in. Also matches can end in the first minute of Round One to the refs deciding who wins in the 3rd or 5th round.

 

[-Constantine]

I'd rather watch real fighting then scripted bullshit and Vince promotes, who he wants to promote. Fans play a role yes, but he has the final decision because we've all seen great guys get tossed away by vince because why? Because he can be seriously fucking Blue at times.

Dana White can be to, Kimbo Slice.

 

[J...]

Vince gives his wrestlers time to speak to the fans to get them more yes, but in UFC you don't need to speak to gain fans. You let you fists do the talking. A wrester can be awesome and go to WWE, if he can't speak english he is fucked. However look at Silva in UFC dude speaks like 1 english sentence yet he's still idolized by UFC fans, myself included guys a god. Plus you don't have to worry about fighters being "Underrrated" like WWE becuase fighters fight for there time in the light. Back on Topic Dana > Vince.

Im officially making a WWE vs. UFC thread cuase theres alot of that talk in here.

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

^^The only reason there is alot of debate about it is because people, mainly yourself, can't answer the question objectively. Personal bias got in the way of answering the asked question. I called it the way it is. Dana is a great PR guy and did more for MMA than anyone ever will. But that's about where it starts and stops for White. Vince has more tv, more shows, has branched his company into many other avenues and has been successful. He has done it three times longer than Dana, has faced more adversity and shown he is able to adapt with the times. He has done this in an industry where people know it's predetermined and the smoke and mirrors has been pulled back and he owns his company. Dana is an employee of the UFC. Vince is easily the better business man and seriously, when you look at it purely subjectively, it's not debatable.