Curt Hawkins talks about Zack Ryder's treatment spirit of the locker room

[The GOAT]

A couple of marks chant and people tend to join in. If you recall Al snows "head" got a lot of chants even when he wasn't there. I guess they should've put a strap on it too?

Big difference. The Attitude Era had arguably the most rabid crowds in history who would literally cheer for just about everything. And the "Head" gimmick was what was over about Al Snow, so you can't really separate them. That's wholly different from Zack Ryder getting some of the biggest reactions on the show in a time of mostly apathetic crowds.

lol So much bias on your part here, come 'on. It reminds me of people saying Bryan was only over because of the YES chants and saying it was no different than the week or two that people were doing the Fandango before growing bored of it when anyone could see those two couldn't be anymore different.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

Big difference. The Attitude Era had arguably the most rabid crowds in history who would literally cheer for just about everything. And the "Head" gimmick was what was over about Al Snow, so you can't really separate them. That's wholly different from Zack Ryder getting some of the biggest reactions on the show in a time of mostly apathetic crowds.

lol So much bias on your part here, come 'on. It reminds me of people saying Bryan was only over because of the YES chants and saying it was no different than the week or two that people were doing the Fandango before growing bored of it when anyone could see those two couldn't be anymore different.

Bryan was over way before being in wwe and his yes chants for his in ring talent. There's no one in their right mind who'd say Ryder is better than Bryan. Also, obviously I'm biased, it my opinion.

 

[The GOAT]

Bryan was over way before being in wwe and his yes chants for his in ring talent. There's no one in their right mind who'd say Ryder is better than Bryan. Also, obviously I'm biased, it my opinion.

My point wasn't about comparing Bryan and Ryder as performers, but rather comparing their situations and the convenient excuses people have used before to dismiss them. For what it's worth, Bryan's popularity before performing in WWE is irrelevant seeing as how being over in front of ROH-sized crowds isn't anything like being over in front of WWE-sized crowds. But this is all going a bit off-topic.

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

Exactly, but this doesn't just happen in WWE... nearly every wrestling industry pulls this shit off, and wrestling has now really lost its edge with all that, you see a guy get pushed, then instant burial.

 

[Red Rain]

What? The reason they chanted for "Head" was because it had a better ring to it than "Snow"

The reason they chanted 'head' was because it was something everybody wanted and everybody needed.
Pulling out the Al Snow argument is weak when you break it down. The cat chose a gimmick that any 18-49 year old male would relate to.
Zack Ryder created his gimmick out of necessity and desperation.
It was like going to the woodshed at the far end of your property breaking a glass and pulling out a joke that 50% of people in america would outright reject.
I don't dig Ryder and never have but WWE just make themselves look like freaking Nazi's when they do sh*t like this

This scene from Family Guy is actually the WWE asking Zack Ryder about his gimmick