CM Punk Appreciation Thread!

[BaraaKhalaf92]

Punk appreciation? No thanks. :rock:

:gtfo:

 

[PSachkovsky]

434 days of CM Punk's reign ended by an elbow... :sad:

I could've thought of a different finish (Rock Bottom for a change), but not this.

Nonetheless, he had probably the best reign (although, I have to admit it was starting to get repetitive in the close end of 2012) possible. To me that speaks volumes. But he got overshadowed by John Cena wrestling in the main events. I mean, the WWE does it's best to make it seem as if John Cena is more important than the WWE Championship.

 

[Danielson]

CM Punk is cool, title reign was getting boring though.

Rock is champ

 

[Crayo]

His matches against Bryan were as expected top quality too bad AJ sucked the life out of that feud.

Yep, that was a damn shame. Especially the latter end of the feud. The match itself at OTL was great though.

As for CM Punk's title reign, it was great, but it was definitely stale during his face run. For a brief moment he turned into one of those smiling super faces that cut really shit jokes; he was still much more entertaining than Sheamus though.

But when he turned heel is when it became incredible for me.

 

[PSachkovsky]

As for CM Punk's title reign, it was great, but it was definitely stale during his face run.

I have to kind disagree with you. While he was a great heel and it was incredible as far as his mic work, but when he was a face he feuded with many people. John Cena, Kevin Nash, Triple H, The Miz, Alberto Del Rio, John Laurinaitis. While when he turned heel, he was mostly feuding with Cena, Ryback and The Rock. I think his face run was good as far as the feuds he had, but his best mic work and promos came when he turned heel, there's no doubt about that.

 

[Crayo]

He had better opposition yeah, all of those people he feuded with (apart from Nash) should have been while Punk was a heel in my opinion. Imagine heel Punk going over face HHH, Cena and ADR, the promos would be gold.

 

[blazing65]

i'm more then likely gonna ruin the next few months of the wwe for some people but i just have to know if i'm the only person who see's who is real person behind paul heyman, cm punk brock lesnar the shield and the two other superstars(i don't wanna give away his big surprise if i'm right it's gonna be big well one of the guys ) which i think will from the new super group of the new era and will give rise to the one thing that the wwe has been missing a villain just think about who should be running the wwe right now who hasn't been around in awhile what injustice has the shield been speaking about why would people like laurinaitis, punk, heyman and lesnar think they can challege the great mr mcmahon in his world i first notice it with john laurinaitis it was clear from the start of his rise to power that he wasn't the person in control then the whole "who is he texting thing " and every one just forgot about it cause of kevin nash and triple h thing but that only made say maybe i could be right and the right after john laurinaitis was fried i was like wait huh dam maybe i could be wrong cause he would need a voice and a person to do every for him and then paul heyman return to the wwe alone side cm punk and short after the forming of the shield and brock lesnar return and cm punks great change he keeps saying he'll bring and why brock keeps targeting the Mcmahon family shane i've missed ya and i can't wait to see what you do next:sad::sad::sad:

 

[Crayo]

To be honest, you're thinking logically which is bad when it comes to WWE, lol. The whole texting thing is over as WWE had no idea where to book it from there, they had no one in mind most likely.

I think Brock targeting the McMahon family is just a coincidence. I really doubt it's Johnny Ace behind it, I'd be pissed off if it was. I love Ace but he shouldn't be in control of Heyman, Heyman is a God.

 

[PSachkovsky]

I think Brock targeting the McMahon family is just a coincidence.

A way to start the HHH/Lesnar II at WrestleMania.

 

[BaraaKhalaf92]

A way to start the HHH/Lesnar II at WrestleMania.

Unfortunately :downer:

 

[Mustafar Reginald]

It was a fantastic and historic reign, I'm quite sad it didn't end at Wrestlemania instead.

Totally agree. Would've been awesome, and there was quite a few months were I was actually convinced he'd lose it at Mania. But meh, nothing I could do about it.

Same. A Punk vs Taker would have been very good.

Well, they should give World Heavyweight Title to him one day and make him have a long reign like this. So that title can have it's real worth back.

Taker vs. Punk still has a good chance of happening. Though, Taker vs. Punk for the WWE Championship would be a downright awful booking decision by WWE. So if Punk was locked in to face Taker this year no matter what, I really can't complain about him losing the belt prior to Mania.

Agreed. :upset:

Which WWE Championship match was the best in Punk's reign?

His match against Jericho at Extreme Rules by far (granted I haven't seen them all). Every single match in Punk's reign I went into one hundred percent positive that Punk was walking out champion, minus his Rumble match with Rock. All the matches I've seen live-ish, without knowing the actually results, no matter how they booked it, I was never once tricked into thinking he'd lose. Like at Night Of Champions against Cena (third favorite by the way). When they made it seem like Cena won, I wasn't fooled for a second. However, that match against Extreme Rules through great story-telling actually provided a moment where I thought Jericho was winning, and when Punk kicked out I even marked a bit. None of the other matches, as technically sound as they were (Punk vs. Bryan at OTL, my second favorite by the way) managed to pull me in and get me invested like the match did.

Yeah, was a good reign. Sad to see it ended in the hands of a part timer in one of the worst matches in Punk's reign, if not the worst. He carried Mark Henry to top matches btw.

Damn true. Outside of maybe Henry's match with Show at Vengeance, those are definitely his best matches. Especially the first one.

 

[Crayo]

Did you not think Punk was going to lose it at the Elimination Chamber on Jericho's first return? That was the only time I was worried he might drop it, as it made perfect sense at the time considering Jericho's secrecy and storyline behind him (it begins).

 

[Mustafar Reginald]

Did you not think Punk was going to lose it at the Elimination Chamber on Jericho's first return? That was the only time I was worried he might drop it, as it made perfect sense at the time considering Jericho's secrecy and storyline behind him (it begins).

Nah, I immediately ruled out the possible of Jericho ever winning the Championship since I know Jericho's preference to put over people rather than come back to steal the spotlight (perfect example, letting Bourne go over him - so during the end of his last run that seemed to develop). I also knew he wanted to feud with Punk specifically, and combining that with the aforementioned putting people over thing plus the fact I knew he wasn't staying for too long due to Fozzy, it was easy for me to deduce it wasn't happening.

 

[Crayo]

Nah, I immediately ruled out the possible of Jericho ever winning the Championship since I know Jericho's preference to put over people rather than come back to steal the spotlight (perfect example, letting Bourne go over him - so during the end of his last run that seemed to develop). I also knew he wanted to feud with Punk specifically, and combining that with the aforementioned putting people over thing plus the fact I knew he wasn't staying for too long due to Fozzy, it was easy for me to deduce it wasn't happening.

No one knew he wasn't staying long due to Fozzy though during his first return. There was a massive build of anticipation for him and the storyline looked huge, like it could impact the whole WWE. With that in mind, I thought the mastermind behind the "end of the world as you knew it" had to hold the title to resemble power. Of course I should have seen that WWE never follow through with storylines -.-. Also, you can put someone over even if you take their title, especially if they win it back at the end of the feud.

 

[Mustafar Reginald]

No one knew he wasn't staying long due to Fozzy though during his first return. There was a massive build of anticipation for him and the storyline looked huge, like it could impact the whole WWE. With that in mind, I thought the mastermind behind the "end of the world as you knew it" had to hold the title to resemble power. Of course I should have seen that WWE never follow through with storylines -.-. Also, you can put someone over even if you take their title, especially if they win it back at the end of the feud.

I could've sworn there were reports around January that Fozzy had a tour for August. I can't remember when I first read that, but it was at some point during the Punk feud. Maybe I just got that dates wrong.

And of course you can, but that doesn't mean it's the best or most effective way of doing so. Clearly in hindsight it was better that they didn't go that method. But considering Jericho has gone on record saying, before returning for that run, that win/loss records don't really effect him anymore, I'm pretty sure he'd be all for having Punk win all the matches in their feud to put him over the most. It just didn't seem likely back then that someone who has said that, has put others over before leaving his last run, and clearly doesn't need a world title or think he does, to handpick CM Punk to feud with just so he can end Punk's reign and be champion for a month or two before Punk eventually gets it back. It's not something Jericho needed (like the Bourne example, he said him beating Bourne means nothing but the reverse did), I applied that same philosophy to the WWE Championship and came out with the conclusion Jericho wasn't winning the title period. His feud with Punk happened because he wanted to work with Punk, and could possibly help get him, nothing more.

As for the It Begins videos, those were some of my favorite things WWE have ever done (even if it was obvious who they were for . . . actually that probably made me love it more) and I somewhat think it was as shame more wasn't done with what they put into it. But, I thought Jericho's whole return was done great from the whole no talking to when he finally did just uttering the end of the world line. That was enough connection to the promos to make me happy.

Switching gears, I watched bits and pieces of the Punk/Rock promo from Raw. Loved how Punk [subtly] brought up the fact that he works house shows and Rock doesn't.
*Edit*

Due to being completely bored and having nothing going on with my life, I decided to spend my time searching through Lordsofpain to see if I could find anything relating to how long Jericho was staying. I found two, this one which despite ending up being wrong, gave some credence to my theory way back when, and this one which is Jericho stating he wasn't sticking with WWE all throughout Summer without actually saying it. Both before the Chamber match, so within that time-frame, I did have reason to add how long he'd stay into the equation.