Brian Funaki?

[LKP]

100% perfectly worded there man. Totally agree with you. And ncie sig to lol.

 

[HHHforever]

Considering London is injured why not use Brian to job? It's not like it will hurt his reputation and he's got credintials that are better then any other jobber.

If Cade or Murdoch (who has the same creds as Brian) were jobbing it would look bad for them since there bigger guys. But for a guy who's like what 140 pounds to job it doesn't look bad at all.

And considering how amazingly brutal Brian sold all of Paul Burchills moves he's quite frankly quite good at making someone else look good.

When Paul comes back they'll be a tag team again giving Cody Rhodes and Hardcore a run for their money. And Unless the crowd is willing to push them on their own (whitch is the only way for smaller guys to get pushed) then they live their career as the elite-teir jobbers which is as much as you can ask for when you're in a big guys buisness

I agree with some of the stuff you said. Paul definitely is a hell of a jobber. It's nice to have someone job that can actually sell moves and make people look good. Like in Kofi's debut on ECW I wasn't really impressed at all cuz he was working with some stiff. So I do kinda agree with you on that.

However where I disagree with you is about once Paul comes back they'll be making a run for tag team gold. I really don't think they're getting into the Raw Tag Team Title picture for a long time imo. I think what's going to happen is that Santino/Carlito are your next tag team champs. I think Holly is going to go heel and turn on Rhodes so there might be a chance that London and Kendrick take their spot as number 1 contender, but barring an injury to someone I don't see them getting gold for at least 6 months or more, at least not on Raw.

 

[CenaMark54]

Kendrick should be jobbing to wrestlers as talented as Paul Burchill.

His job is to put over people by selling the shit out of their offense and trying to make people who are starting a push look strong.

Jobbers like Funaki and Kendrick are important. Lets not degrade them by saying the roles they play are wasteful and useless. Without jobbers wrestling wouldn't be the same. If everyone had a .500 record, what fun would that be?

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

Kendrick should be jobbing to wrestlers as talented as Paul Burchill.

His job is to put over people by selling the shit out of their offense and trying to make people who are starting a push look strong.

Jobbers like Funaki and Kendrick are important. Lets not degrade them by saying the roles they play are wasteful and useless. Without jobbers wrestling wouldn't be the same. If everyone had a .500 record, what fun would that be?

Every match would be a completely unpredictable toss-up of main event quality?
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Yes, move-selling jobbers are important, but they should be people who lack talent. London and Kendrick are on par with, or dare I say better than, the MCMGs, AJ Styles, and Mysterio. If you want to have someone job, let it be some local talent from the Chestnut Street Wrestling League, or whatever. It's flat out disgusting that someone as talented as London or Kendrick should be thrown into lowcard obscurity, only showing their faces for three-minute jobs. I could do that. They should be in the upper card at least.

 

[Kaedon]

Every match would be a completely unpredictable toss-up of main event quality?
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Yes, move-selling jobbers are important, but they should be people who lack talent. London and Kendrick are on par with, or dare I say better than, the MCMGs, AJ Styles, and Mysterio. If you want to have someone job, let it be some local talent from the Chestnut Street Wrestling League, or whatever. It's flat out disgusting that someone as talented as London or Kendrick should be thrown into lowcard obscurity, only showing their faces for three-minute jobs. I could do that. They should be in the upper card at least.

I love when people say THEY can do something with no actual way or want to prove it, as if it makes any kind of point. L and K are NOT better than AJ or Mysterio. Those guys, Mysterio more than AJ because of how he was taught and who he was taught by, knows how to WORK a match and a crowd. Not just set shit up and do it, work a match, draw the crowd in. When AJ came out with that stupid crown on his head he looked like he believed he should have it on. Trouble is when the fans were shouting "Princess AJ" he barely acknowledged it, but he is getting better. London and Kendrick barely ever work the crowd, and all they really know how to do is sell, and even that is iffy, see the ladder match with the Hardys, and do moves. So fucking what. That doesnt mean they are talented. I know Spanky was taught by HBK, but if you look what Ol HB does in the ring and what Kendrick does in the ring, they are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT people. One is good, has psychology, works the crowd, and one just does spots, when given the chance. That's why they will never be above the mid card as a tag team because neither one of them can do those things and probably never will.

 

[Enigma22]

i just think it was completely stupid to put them on raw... they were the top team on smackdown and now they are the jobber team on raw... cruiserweights should all be on smackdown...

 

[HHHforever]

Every match would be a completely unpredictable toss-up of main event quality?
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Yes, move-selling jobbers are important, but they should be people who lack talent. London and Kendrick are on par with, or dare I say better than, the MCMGs, AJ Styles, and Mysterio. If you want to have someone job, let it be some local talent from the Chestnut Street Wrestling League, or whatever. It's flat out disgusting that someone as talented as London or Kendrick should be thrown into lowcard obscurity, only showing their faces for three-minute jobs. I could do that. They should be in the upper card at least.

That's the point though. Those guys from Chestnut Street Wrestling or any local shitty promotion can't sell well. A guy like Kendrick can. Like I said in my above post, shitty jobbers make the wrestlers look worse, like in Kofi's debut, imo. Besides this is the way things work. London and Kendrick are jobbing at the moment, but eventually they will get a push again. Hardy jobbed out for months before. Everytime he had a match he would be dominating and then go for some high spot, miss, and lose. Now he had a world title shot and has a shot, although I doubt he'll get it, to head line WM. Same thing with Mr. Kennedy, he was jobbing to Super Crazy, now he had a huge feud with HBK and now is in the Ric Flair angle. I'm somewhat with Kaedon on this one cuz I really don't like London and Kendrick very much and don't think they're THAT great. However that being said they are young and they eventually will be pushed again.

 

[Colin Gimp]

I love when people say THEY can do something with no actual way or want to prove it, as if it makes any kind of point. L and K are NOT better than AJ or Mysterio. Those guys, Mysterio more than AJ because of how he was taught and who he was taught by, knows how to WORK a match and a crowd. Not just set shit up and do it, work a match, draw the crowd in. When AJ came out with that stupid crown on his head he looked like he believed he should have it on. Trouble is when the fans were shouting "Princess AJ" he barely acknowledged it, but he is getting better. London and Kendrick barely ever work the crowd, and all they really know how to do is sell, and even that is iffy, see the ladder match with the Hardys, and do moves. So fucking what. That doesnt mean they are talented. I know Spanky was taught by HBK, but if you look what Ol HB does in the ring and what Kendrick does in the ring, they are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT people. One is good, has psychology, works the crowd, and one just does spots, when given the chance. That's why they will never be above the mid card as a tag team because neither one of them can do those things and probably never will.

If they pushed wrestlers who had skill and could do all the fundamentals of wrestling (Which atribuites of fundamentals is another thread upon itself)

then we would have guys like Charlie Haas and Lance Storm as our world champions but that's not the case because upper mid card is clasified by whoever get's a reaction not their skill level. Example: John Cena could barely work a mic, could barely wrestle but yet he has a look and a reaction and the rest is history. Reactions is what made Edge a main eventer not his skill. Reactions is what Rey a world champion. Reactions is what Stone Cold Steve Austin more then just a jobber like Brian.

So what i'm trying to say is that skilled wrestlers who know the pyschology of wrestling like the back of their hand will only get pushed if they have a reaction.
Reactions are what makes main event wrestlers, well main event wrestlers. And in order to get that main event reaction, you need a look and that's basically it. The rest is basically tips in a game of luck.

If brian kendrick was able to get a decent reaction he would be intercontinental champion right now, his talents would only be icing on the cake as for the same of any wrestler.

To suggest that the WWE pushs their roster based on their skill level which is what you seem to be implying is nothing but laughable. John Cena is a perfect example of this. If you need someone more based on look then Khali, Mark Henry etc

 

[HHHforever]

First of all Cena can't work the mic? Are you kidding me? I mean Cena isn't the greatest mic worker of all times, but he's definitely in the top 5 mic workers nowadays in the WWE. To say he isn't is completely foolish imo.

I don't think Kendrick would be IC champ right now if he got a crowd reaction. Kennedy gets great heel heat and he's not IC champ. Same with Santino. Having the IC belt right now is worhtless, Hardy hardly carries it with him right now.

 

[Kaedon]

If they pushed wrestlers who had skill and could do all the fundamentals of wrestling (Which atribuites of fundamentals is another thread upon itself)

then we would have guys like Charlie Haas and Lance Storm as our world champions but that's not the case because upper mid card is clasified by whoever get's a reaction not their skill level. Example: John Cena could barely work a mic, could barely wrestle but yet he has a look and a reaction and the rest is history.

So what i'm trying to say is that skilled wrestlers who know the pyschology of wrestling like the back of their hand will only get pushed if they have a reaction.
Reactions are what makes main event wrestlers, well main event wrestlers. And in order to get that main event reaction, you need a look and that's basically it. The rest is basically tips on a dice roll.

If brian kendrick was able to get a decent reaction he would be intercontinental champion right now, his talents would only be icing on the cake.

To suggest that the WWE pushs their roster based on their skill level which is what you seem to be implying is nothing but laughable.

Newsflash, IF YOU DONT GET A REACTION, YOU DONT KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY. Hulk Hogan was, without a doubt, one of the WORST wrestlers, from a "work rate" perspective. But no matter where he went, he got a reaction. Why? Not because he was pushed, because he had psychology. You can push a guy to the moon, that doesnt mean the people are gonna react to him. Ever listen to the crowd when Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin come out? Fucking crickets. Ever notice how they NEVER listen to the crowd before, during, or after their matches. Check anyone who has never gotten over but "deserved" to be pushed. I guarantee you, 99% of them do not even acknowledge that the crowd is even there, thus no psychology, thus no reaction, thus no push, thus THEY SUCK SHIT.

 

[CenaMark54]

If they pushed wrestlers who had skill and could do all the fundamentals of wrestling (Which atribuites of fundamentals is another thread upon itself)

then we would have guys like Charlie Haas and Lance Storm as our world champions but that's not the case because upper mid card is clasified by whoever get's a reaction not their skill level. Example: John Cena could barely work a mic, could barely wrestle but yet he has a look and a reaction and the rest is history. Reactions is what made Edge a main eventer not his skill. Reactions is what Rey a world champion. Reactions is what Stone Cold Steve Austin more then just a jobber like Brian.

So what i'm trying to say is that skilled wrestlers who know the pyschology of wrestling like the back of their hand will only get pushed if they have a reaction.
Reactions are what makes main event wrestlers, well main event wrestlers. And in order to get that main event reaction, you need a look and that's basically it. The rest is basically tips in a game of luck.

If brian kendrick was able to get a decent reaction he would be intercontinental champion right now, his talents would only be icing on the cake as for the same of any wrestler.

To suggest that the WWE pushs their roster based on their skill level which is what you seem to be implying is nothing but laughable. John Cena is a perfect example of this. If you need someone more based on look then Khali, Mark Henry etc

I think Kaedon basically covered it, but I will add my two cents.

1. John Cena...barely work the mic? Cena is one of the most natural mic workers not named Flair or the Rock.

2. The point of professional wrestling is to make money. Wrestlers that draw emotion out of the crowd are the ones who make money. Therefore, the wrestlers who can get a reaction are the most skilled and will get the pushes because of there ability to make the crowd care.

You can take the most athletic person in the world, give him years of training and put him in the ring. If he can't make the crowd care about him, he is not a skilled professional wrestler. Shelton for example. Noone should ever say Shelton is a better professional John Cena and if you do, you are just kidding yourself.