Borderlands Mafia [DAY TWO] - FIRST OFFICIAL GAME OF 2022

[Smart Marx]

really? 9-2-1 feels pretty balanced to me

even more so than 9-3 lol

2 is 16%. Mafia should be 21-27%.

With total non-town roughly 30-35%.

 

[Ekkologix]

2 is 16%. Mafia should be 21-27%.

With total non-town roughly 30-35%.

my issue with this is a 3 mafia team wud only need 3 mislynches to win. thats kind of too easy no?

i always disliked 9-3 ratios. 10-3 is much healthier, or 8-2. but 9-3 is awkward lmao

9-2-1 on the other hand works because mafia needs 3 mislynches while also needing to avoid getting killed by serial. its a bit tougher but more or less same number of mislynches needed provided that the serial can kill atleast 1 townie for the mafia.

 

[Ekkologix]

a mafia team of X members should need X + 1 mislynches usually

3 members shud need 4 mislynches. else its kind of easy

2 members shud need 3 mislynches, which wud be more balanced. 9-2-1

if this is 9-3 then i hope town has some sort of hidden double voter

 

[Smart Marx]

my issue with this is a 3 mafia team wud only need 3 mislynches to win. thats kind of too easy no?

i always disliked 9-3 ratios. 10-3 is much healthier, or 8-2. but 9-3 is awkward lmao

9-2-1 on the other hand works because mafia needs 3 mislynches while also needing to avoid getting killed by serial. its a bit tougher but more or less same number of mislynches needed provided that the serial can kill atleast 1 townie for the mafia.

3 is pretty standard, yeah.

Imagine trying to win as only two people with 10 opponents and one of them can kill you at night.

I’d honestly not even try.

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Conclusion: 12 is a bad number of players for mafia

 

[Ekkologix]

3 is pretty standard, yeah.

Imagine trying to win as only two people with 10 opponents and one of them can kill you at night.

I’d honestly not even try.

cmon its not that bad lol. the chance of serial hitting mafia is pretty low, specially if mafia play it right.

 

[Ekkologix]

Conclusion: 12 is a bad number of players for mafia

it usually is yea lmao

9-2-1 with giving mafia a roleblocker and giving serial a 1x bulletproof could be your best bet

 

[Smart Marx]

cmon its not that bad lol. the chance of serial hitting mafia is pretty low, specially if mafia play it right.

If they’re guessing, it’s low, but if they get a feel for you, and they hit you, your team is fucked.

Mafia should never be lower than a fifth of the game.

 

[Smart Marx]

25% mafia and 33% nontown is the gold standard, typically. And with 12 players that’s a perfect 8-3-1.

 

[Smart Marx]

I don’t think there’ll be a SK though.

At least I wouldn’t include one. A game this small, just make it town and mafia.

 

[Ekkologix]

If they’re guessing, it’s low, but if they get a feel for you, and they hit you, your team is fucked.

Mafia should never be lower than a fifth of the game.

why wud serial want to night kill mafia this early lmao

the number of mislynches technically still remains the same more or less. 3 mislynches. even if a serial shot mafia once

so long as the serial kills a town atleast once, the ratio is restored. if he kills 2 townies even better.

 

[Smart Marx]

why wud serial want to night kill mafia this early lmao

the number of mislynches technically still remains the same more or less. 3 mislynches. even if a serial shot mafia once

so long as the serial kills a town atleast once, the ratio is restored. if he kills 2 townies even better.

Doesn’t have to be early. It would be even worse later.

Imagine getting to night 4 and thinking you have a shot and the SK kills half your team, lmao.

 

[Ekkologix]

I don’t think there’ll be a SK though.

At least I wouldn’t include one. A game this small, just make it town and mafia.

i included a serial in an 11 player game b4

they can have limits

mafia had a 1x bulletproof. so did serial

can limit them to only shoot in even nights

eitherway setup discussion is a waste of time now lmao

 

[Ekkologix]

Doesn’t have to be early. It would be even worse later.

Imagine getting to night 4 and thinking you have a shot and the SK kills half your team, lmao.

if the mafia doesnt get rid of serial by night 4 or find him atleast he kinda deserves to win
mafia will have a roleblocker. they shud use on serial. or lynch him

 

[Leon TrotSky]

i included a serial in an 11 player game b4

they can have limits

mafia had a 1x bulletproof. so did serial

can limit them to only shoot in even nights

eitherway setup discussion is a waste of time now lmao

I mean, we are waiting for Magic to get on and respond

Maybe we should get 1 more vote for claim territory