Best Science Fiction Film Round 1a: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (8) vs Armageddon (57)

[Chris]

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Release Date: June 4, 1982
Director: Nicholas Meyer
Cast: William Shatner, Ricardo Montalbán, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley
Plot: With the assistance of the Enterprise crew, Admiral Kirk must stop an old nemesis, Khan Noonien Singh, from using the life-generating Genesis Device as the ultimate weapon.



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Armageddon
Release Date: July 1, 1998
Director: Michael Bay
Cast: Bruce Willis, Billy Bob Thorton, Ben Affleck, Liv Tyler
Plot: After discovering that an asteroid the size of Texas is going to impact Earth in less than a month, NASA recruits a misfit team of deep-core drillers to save the planet.
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[Grimoire Lenin]

KHAAAAAAAAN!

 

[Chris]

Armageddon is good stuff IMO fuck the haters but I still gotta go with Khan here

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

WoK is easily my favorite Star Trek Movie, and probably would have been #1 on my list.

 

[CakeWalker]

Its a tough break for Armageddon, but KHAN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Apoho Creed]

For me enjoying Star Trek Discovery and Picard these days it's crazy to me why I haven't seen The Wrath of Khan yet. Maybe it's due to me wanting to watch the Series first but I'm sure I'll get to it sooner or later. Armageddon's though first time I saw it on TNT I was in tears hard at the end it's one of the rare Movies like The Wizard everytime I see it I'm crying.

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

Get Off The Nuclear Warhead

 

[Marty McFourth]

Armageddon is cheesy as fuck but I love it.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

In my opinion one of the most intense battle scenes in all of sci-fi.

 

[Comrade Khan]

had to go Wrath of Khan here. I actually think Armageddon is a pretty bad movie

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

I'd also have to say that despite being a Star Trek film, a series notorious for kinda being extremely corny and goofy, Wrath of Khan is an extremely subtle and philosophical film about what it means to grow old and how obsession poisons everything.

Spoiler: WoK Spoilers

Kirk tries with all his might to avoid the fact that he's getting old, and it takes the literal death of his best friend and everything he's known to finally accept that, yes, he's getting old; it's only then that he finally comes to terms with his age and begins to feel young again. Kirk reconciles with his estranged son David, who is finally proud of his father. This movie is about Kirk accepting loss and accepting that getting old isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Khan on the other hand, is a brilliant man obsessed with revenge. When he finally escapes Ceti Alpha V, he is given the gift of travel, a way to begin anew and form a new paradise for himself if he so wishes. Instead, he is obsessed with his vengeance on Kirk and it clouds his judgment. When Khan thinks he's won, his arrogance costs him dearly as after Kirk somehow survives and returns, he leads his crew to slaughter against Kirk. His overconfidence leads him to forget that ships can move on the z-axis, which allows Kirk to get the drop on Khan and inevitably finish the job.

So yeah, when my brother and I did a podcast on Wrath of Khan, we spent like two hours talking about it because it's such a deep movie.

 

[Lady Redfield]

Star Trek 2, baby, that’s my #1, let’s gooooooo

 

[Comrade Khan]

Star Trek 2, baby, that’s my #1, let’s gooooooo

justice restored

 

[Keith]

"KHAAANNNNNNN!" One of the best endings to a Scifi ever. Also the Scorpian in the ear scene creeps me out everytime.

 

[Lady Redfield]

justice restored

I was quite shocked when I clicked this thread and saw it was tied, I might be a little bias, but, I felt this would be an easy destruction lol