Back to back weeks of no Jack Swagger

[Dolph'sZiggler]

How many feuds are their in this entire company right now? 3 or 4? Kane/Cena, Bryan/Show, Barrett Orton, and Rock Cena which isn't a real feud?

That's just fucking pathetic

 

[JC4Life37]

If Jack Swagger was important he would be on the show.

Regardless if he's wearing the belt, Swagger (himself) isn't impressing anyone.

Was Miz on each week when he had the belt? Was Ziggler on each week?


Sorry, it's the man who makes the belt. Creative has nothing for him b/c he's boring

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

If Jack Swagger was important he would be on the show.

Regardless if he's wearing the belt, Swagger (himself) isn't impressing anyone.

Was Miz on each week when he had the belt? Was Ziggler on each week?


Sorry, it's the man who makes the belt. Creative has nothing for him b/c he's boring

Fail, you can't defend this shit. If he's not important, don't give him the belt in the first fucking place.

'creative' (loose use of the word creative) doesn't have anything for ANYONE because they fucking suck at their job

 

[Saylor]

Fail, you can't defend this shit. If he's not important, don't give him the belt in the first fucking place.

'creative' (loose use of the word creative) doesn't have anything for ANYONE because they fucking suck at their job

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

 

[JC4Life37]

I gave you a reason why Swagger hasn't been on.

Yet, you keep saying how stupid it was that he wasn't

What is your explanation? Besides how I fail and how stupid WWE is.... why should Swagger be on ?

 

[seabs]

I gave you a reason why Swagger hasn't been on.

Yet, you keep saying how stupid it was that he wasn't

What is your explanation? Besides how I fail and how stupid WWE is.... why should Swagger be on ?

He should be on TV because he's the WWE United States champion. If you're not going to put him on TV don't give him the belt.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

He should be on TV because he's the WWE United States champion. If you're not going to put him on TV don't give him the belt.

Pretty simple stuff...

I guess in his eyes nobody is worthy of tv time while endless recorded promos are totally worthy

 

[JC4Life37]

He should be on TV because he's the WWE United States champion. If you're not going to put him on TV don't give him the belt.

You're assuming the U.S belt carries that kind of significance.

I'm thinking it doesn't. I don't think Vince cares for the belt at all

Why should he? According to some people, the holder doesn't draw a dime

What incentive is there? Are you going by principle or tradition?

If that were the case those guys would still be called wrestlers, not superstars


Then again, you know all that already

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

You're assuming the U.S belt carries that kind of significance.

I'm thinking it doesn't. I don't think Vince cares for the belt at all

THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE ARE POINTING OUT BUDDY

 

[seabs]

You're assuming the U.S belt carries that kind of significance.

I'm thinking it doesn't. I don't think Vince cares for the belt at all

Why should he? According to some people, the holder doesn't draw a dime

What incentive is there? Are you going by principle or tradition?

If that were the case those guys would still be called wrestlers, not superstars


Then again, you know all that already

Of course it hold significance it's a championship from within the company. It's been booked poorly at times admittedly but it still shows some investment from the company. The incentive is to build up your main event talent for the following years, such as The Miz or Dolph Ziggler. How can someone be made into a main event talent without TV time? It's not all about who draws in the present, Stunning Steve Austin never drew and neither did Rocky Miavia but they were built up by put on TV and given midcard reigns to become the draws. I'm not saying swagger will reach a level anywhere near them but the principle is the same.

 

[JC4Life37]

Of course it hold significance it's a championship from within the company. It's been booked poorly at times admittedly but it still shows some investment from the company. The incentive is to build up your main event talent for the following years, such as The Miz or Dolph Ziggler. How can someone be made into a main event talent without TV time? It's not all about who draws in the present, Stunning Steve Austin never drew and neither did Rocky Miavia but they were built up by put on TV and given midcard reigns to become the draws. I'm not saying swagger will reach a level anywhere near them but the principle is the same.

I agree.

The problem is Vince doesn't see it this way anymore.

Vince went on television and says Drew McIntyre is the future.... why make yourself look stupid on stop his push?

Orton did far worse and never lost nearly as many times.

Elijah Burke was another guy Vince touted and burned. Why?


Hypothetically, push the U.S champ down our throats and see what happens

 

[seabs]

I agree.

The problem is Vince doesn't see it this way anymore.

Vince went on television and says Drew McIntyre is the future.... why make yourself look stupid on stop his push?

Orton did far worse and never lost nearly as many times.

Elijah Burke was another guy Vince touted and burned. Why?


Hypothetically, push the U.S champ down our throats and see what happens

You've gone to an extreme with the pushing down our throats line. No one is calling for a megapush. We just want the US champion on TV. Drew lacked the overness for his push to continue. They attempted to get him over by using the ultimate heel, Vince McMahon but it failed so they stopped it. The exact same can be said for Elijah.

Randy is Vince's golden boy admittedly but whilst in Evolution he got solid heat and if it wasn't for the rushed babyface run he would have continued to. Sure he messed up but he had the wrestling ability and the look Vince adores. So that bailed him out alot of the time.

 

[JC4Life37]

Okay, you're saying Orton had more going for him than McIntyre/Burke... when I really didn't see that big of a disparity

Put McIntyre in Orton's shoes and I think you'd get the same guy. McIntyre better on mic, Orton better in ring.

If WWE isn't sure what to do, put the belt on a guy like Santino.... who people do like and can be written for

 

[Asskicker]

Both midcard titles are in the dirt. Look at Cody, he's in a match for the WHC on a ppv rather then defending his belt. How bad does that look?

I rather see Cody be in WHC pursuits and him keeping that belt longer than Macho Man Randy Savage EVER did.

 

[Snowman1]

What significance do these belts have anyway? The WWE and World Heavyweight titles mean that you are the best superstar on your respective brand. The best that WWE has to offer. The Divas', Cruiserweight, and Tag Team titles all show you are the champions of those divisions (which the belts don't mean jack because the divisions are abysmal). The mid-card belts mean... What exactly? That you're the best superstar of those not good enough to compete for the major titles? That's not exactly something to be excited about...

Besides, Swagger's a complete jobber anyway. Couldn't believe he actually got the belt in the first place.