Anyone else tired of the old wrestlers coming back ?

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Don't get me wrong, it's great to see the old wrestlers back after many years of being away like Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Bret Hart The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Rob Van Dam, The Dudley Boyz, Batista, Goldberg, Kurt Angle and The Hardy Boys etc. But they're doomed when you realize how much time passed since the last time you saw them a decade ago. Because of their previous runs with the WWE, we're often led to believe they can come back and be the same guys they were in the past but that's not the case, as it is 10 - 15 years later so expect them to be old and sluggish and unable to bump or do their signature moves the way they used to. So they either make the matches shorter or have them cut promos on the microphone where all they do is talk. The Rock from 2011 - 12 where they set up his WrestleMania match against John Cena a year in advance, so they barely had any interaction at all due to him being away in Hollywood and when they did, they either cut promos on each other or did finishing moves. Goldberg from late 2016 - early 17 was in the ring with Brock Lesnar and Kevin Owens for just a few seconds, which barely counts as a "match" and Rock and Goldberg held the WWE Championship belts for barely a month and a half before losing them at WrestleMania. Now it makes me wish they would stay away.
 

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Don't get me wrong, it's great to see the old wrestlers back after many years of being away like Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Bret Hart The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Rob Van Dam, The Dudley Boyz, Batista, Goldberg, Kurt Angle and The Hardy Boys etc. But they're doomed when you realize how much time passed since the last time you saw them a decade ago. Because of their previous runs with the WWE, we're often led to believe they can come back and be the same guys they were in the past but that's not the case, as it is 10 - 15 years later so expect them to be old and sluggish and unable to bump or do their signature moves the way they used to. So they either make the matches shorter or have them cut promos on the microphone where all they do is talk. The Rock from 2011 - 12 where they set up his WrestleMania match against John Cena a year in advance, so they barely had any interaction at all due to him being away in Hollywood and when they did, they either cut promos on each other or did finishing moves. Goldberg from late 2016 - early 17 was in the ring with Brock Lesnar and Kevin Owens for just a few seconds, which barely counts as a "match" and Rock and Goldberg held the WWE Championship belts for barely a month and a half before losing them at WrestleMania. Now it makes me wish they would stay away.

For me, it depends on why someone is returning and when.

The Rock vs Cena first time around was huge and despite the build-up being slightly lackluster was great WM event.

Goldberg, that was the run he deserved in the WWE originally.

RVD has had plenty of epic returns.

Taker comes back for every Mania.


Every return has to be taken on merit and the reason why. Some are just to boost ratings. Some are a star getting the recognition they deserved aka Goldberg, some are just for fun.
 

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Yes. Yes I am.

I have no time for has-beens & old, broken down legends.
If they can still go. I'm all for some comebacks. Goldberg being one. He was owed that title after being treated like shit in his first WWE stint.

Plus Rock v Cena first time was a legend vs legend it was a good deal imo. Helped ratings and supported a weaker WWE roster.

Nowadays yeah it's less of a good thing but in the past, it's definitely boosted some PPV's that needed it.
 

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If there is a good story to tell, then I have no problem. Who am I to turn down a good story. I'm not ageist. Age is just a number. Don't bring someone back for no reason tho.
 

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If they can still go. I'm all for some comebacks. Goldberg being one.
Well yeah...Goldberg vs. Lesnar was done right...well...
apart from Rusev & Owens being shit on...but the point
is I don't have a problem with part timers showing up...
so long as they feud with other part timers & don't shit
on the full time guys.

If the part timers are willing to put over the full time guys...
even better...but that rarely happens.

Just imagine how someone like Strowman could benefit
from a clean win over Goldberg...Jesus...imagine booking
Strowman vs. Goldberg...the fans would eat that shit up
& ask for seconds.

If there is a good story to tell, then I have no problem. Who am I to turn down a good story. I'm not ageist. Age is just a number. Don't bring someone back for no reason tho.
I'd like to think I'm not ageist...I just don't want to see the
younger guys get shit on to make the old guys look awesome.

Nostalgia is fine...but it will eventually kill the WWE because
of the way they use it.

The Old Part Timers should be helping get the Young Guys over.

If they aren't going to do that...then in my opinion they can fuck off!
 

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Bringing back old guys for horrible story lines just to get a few pops from long time fans is a waste so in that case, yes I am tired of it.
 

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People have been feeling this for years.
 

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I don't have a problem with that at all, mostly because the people they bring back are usually really over with crowds and therefor create good television. People seem to forget that this is a cycle and the people who are full time now, will eventually get to comeback and wrestle part time as well if they're still over enough. If, for example (and I put emphasis on the word "example" here), Punk comes back, you wouldn't see him wrestle every monday like you used to either. Simply because you'd waste great moments you could keep for big shows/PPVs.

That's why I also think it's a shame that the word "Part-timer" has such a bad rep to it now. The reason why these people are Part-timers is not because they're old and Vince likes them or whatever. It's because they're the biggest stars they have and if you have them wrestle on anything less than a PPV, it's just not as special anymore. If you would have had the Rock wrestle a normal 10 minute match on Raw, he'd just be as mortal as any other guy who steps in there but due to the fact that they kept that intrigue of seeing him perform in a ring again alive, the crowd popped so hard even tho the bell just rang to start the match. Same is happening to Ronda right now, if she were to have a match at Raw next week, the magic and interest of seeing her finally perform would be gone in a matter of minutes.

So ye, I don't have an issue with any part timers or returning legends, I'm entertained by it. Besides, everyone WWE went to distance with, has delivered as far as in-ring action goes. Full timers aren't getting shit on because part timers are taking over their upper card spots, because at the end of the day, these "has beens" are the reason why more people are gonna tune in to see the other full timers as well. So in a way, full timers benefit more from part timers than from any other guy on the roster
 

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Well yeah...Goldberg vs. Lesnar was done right...well...
apart from Rusev & Owens being shit on...but the point
is I don't have a problem with part timers showing up...
so long as they feud with other part timers & don't shit
on the full time guys.

If the part timers are willing to put over the full time guys...
even better...but that rarely happens.

Just imagine how someone like Strowman could benefit
from a clean win over Goldberg...Jesus...imagine booking
Strowman vs. Goldberg...the fans would eat that shit up
& ask for seconds.


I'd like to think I'm not ageist...I just don't want to see the
younger guys get shit on to make the old guys look awesome.

Nostalgia is fine...but it will eventually kill the WWE because
of the way they use it.

The Old Part Timers should be helping get the Young Guys over.

If they aren't going to do that...then in my opinion they can fuck off!
Really nothing more I could say! Spot on!
 

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It's sort of been the way wrestling has always been and I don't really see it changing anytime soon. With the non competitive nature of wrestling, older guys either staying involved or coming back after an absence has been happening since wrestling first had older guys in it.

But yeah, the point that has been made a couple times in this thread is the correct one that as long as they don't hamper the younger talent, I say let them come back as long as the fans want to see it. I mean a lot of us can get irritated at Goldberg coming back and squashing KO but the crowd reaction revealed that the majority of fans seemed to like it. And I honestly don't believe that KO suffered any real damage to his image from it since they played it as Goldberg getting a lucky spear on him because Jericho distracted him. But if they brought Bret Hart back, a man who has no business being in a ring due to his physical condition, and had him defeat AJ Styles for the WWE title cleanly in the ring... yeah, I would have an issue with that but I also think the majority of people watching would.

If the older guys can still work a good match and the fans want to see them, there's no reason not to bring them back. But have them play the right role. Don't center your promotion around them. But other than that, I have no problem with them coming back.
 
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Goldberg v Strowman and Goldberg v Roman.
Money money yeah yeah
 

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There needs to be a payoff in the end.. Put some of the full time stars over, like Rock did with Cena, even though Cena didn't need that victory, that was the whole point of Rock coming back, same with Brock putting over Roman at WrestleMania.. Some of these mega stars could benefit these younger talents.. Goldberg coming back was completely worthless. That should've never happened. It didn't benefit Brock because he was already the biggest beast in WWE.. Goldberg just wanted 1 more run, so whatever.
 

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Goldberg coming back was completely worthless. That should've never happened. It didn't benefit Brock because he was already the biggest beast in WWE.. Goldberg just wanted 1 more run, so whatever.
It was fun tho. Plus it made money so I don't think it was worthless at all. Its all about the qaulity of the product they produce. Goldberg v Lesnar was qaulity. Sting losing to HHH was worthless imo.
 
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Last year they let the part timers pass the torch. Hunter laid down for Seth. Styles pinned Shane and let him look VERY good. Roman Reigns retired the damn Undertaker... And none of this wound up accomplishing anything