Anyone else notice this?

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Feuding with Swagger would just kill his cheers tbh. I Iike Swagger, but under Vickie with his current "never speak" gimmick, the crickets aren't even making noise.

So first you say that people don't care who he's facing, it's just about how awesome he is blah blah blah but now if he stops squashing jobbers and starts putting on actual wrestling matches with Swagger it kills his momentum?

huh?

 

[Snowman1]

Jinder Mahal beat down actual jobbers for weeks and it didn't do shit for him. Damien Sandow's beating up actual wrestlers now, and Ryback feels like a MUCH bigger deal than Sandow. While I hate the SSDD booking and the Vladimir Koslov memories as well, this is definitely working.

 

[Crayo]

So first you say that people don't care who he's facing, it's just about how awesome he is blah blah blah but now if he stops squashing jobbers and starts putting on actual wrestling matches with Swagger it kills his momentum?

huh?

Ugh, I have to explain everything, I forgot. Feuding with Swagger would have to be treated as a normal feud, not squashes, right? A normal feud with Ryback means no awesome dominating segments, which means the feud itself would need to be booked well to accommodate for that. Swagger is booked like a shit house, and him feuding with Ryback in his current state would be a cricket feud. If Swagger broke free of Vickie, won the US title, had mic segments like he did as WHC and then feuded with Ryback I'd be all for it.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

99.9% of WWE's feuds are booked like shit. When I say I want them to feud obviously I don't mean I want to see a typical shit WWE feud. I didn't realize I had to qualify everything I said.

My point was I could sit down for 10 minutes and draw up an outline for a good feud between the two, not that I would expect WWE to be able to do so. I guess since WWE can't book feuds Ryback should just stay squashing jobbers for the rest of forever to prevent him from entering the death trap that is a WWE feud?

 

[Crayo]

That is a WWE feud with current Swagger. I think if he was to even be booked poorly in a feud with Big Show, who's just come out of the ME (after Cena beats him) would be a big big push for Ryback, a lot better than Swagger. If not, you wait for something to come up. While waiting, you keep a working system.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I'd be shocked if Ryback goes from squashing nobodies to going over Big Show. It just isn't something that's likely to happen. It's a fun pipe dream for you being a Ryback nut swinger and being a guy who would erase Big Show from the planet if given the option, but it's far from reality.

inb4RybackgoesoverBigShownextmonthandthispostisbumped

 

[Crayo]

Remembering this thread, saved in notepad. Why? Vince apparently loves the guy and it's not hard to believe since he cracks one off daily to big bodybuilders.

 

[Lockard 23]

On the show where they can't pipe in chants because it's live (Raw), Ryback gets nothing but loud Goldberg chants. But on the show where they can pipe in chants because it's taped (Smackdown), he gets chants of "Ryback" and "Finish Him!" Hmm...

 

[Jose Tortilla]

Good thing, noticed it. It started a chant, so it was good for the him and the match.

Well done.

 

[DarksideTrin]

feed me THREE!!!

 

[Crayo]

On the show where they can't pipe in chants because it's live (Raw), Ryback gets nothing but loud Goldberg chants. But on the show where they can pipe in chants because it's taped (Smackdown), he gets chants of "Ryback" and "Finish Him!" Hmm...

I think you have selective hearing. Watch RAW again. He's getting over.

 

[Lockard 23]

All I and others heard was Goldberg chants lol.

 

[Robbie Coletrain]

I think you have selective hearing. Watch RAW again. He's getting over.

And you can still see the people on SD in the backgroung cheering him so its not all fake chants

 

[seabs]

He got some move pops like when he hit his finisher and the double powerbomb, but the majority is Goldberg chants. He does seem to be getting kinda over, but he needs to distance himself from the Goldberg comparison IMO.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KjwclU3K_w[/yt]

 

[Snowman1]

Not sure how being compared to a legend is really that bad, especially when he hasn't done much to establish any kind of character.