Anyone else looking forward to what comes after WM more than WM itself?

[Dolph'sZiggler]

(before they screw it up)

So true. Nexus and Summer of Punk were fun rides, but the end game left a lot to be desired, especially the Nexus shit which really sucked in the end and could have been so much more

 

[Snowman1]

So true. Nexus and Summer of Punk were fun rides, but the end game left a lot to be desired, especially the Nexus shit which really sucked in the end and could have been so much more

But it'll be a lot of fun to talk about what could have been. Again.

 

[JeebaK]

WM, let's face it, is geared to bring back old fans who may not be watching the rest of the year and to appease what the IWC collectively tends to call 'casual' fans. The build this year has thus far been atrocious, and I myself don't see that much potential in the card itself as it stands now. Punk/Jericho sounded great a month ago, but after what's transpired since Jericho's return it's raped my interest. Jericho doesn't have a snow ball chance in hell of winning the match, and having predictable outcomes kills matches in my book. Cena/Rock... the video package feud of the century. The Rock is a busy guy, sure, we all understand it, but if he was committed to by WWE a year in advance to ME WM, you'd think he could commit himself to do more than 2 live shows before the fucking thing. The crowd will be hot ala Hogan/Rock, but the match itself will probably be lackluster. The allure of a possible Cena heel turn went up in smoke last night, and honestly at this point I don't care who wins the damn match. HHH/Taker part III, oh well. I'm tired of WWE having to dust off the old guys for Wrestlemania season to sell their biggest PPV because they fail to create new stars throughout the rest of the year. Granted, they made Punk into what appears to be a megastar, or at least a potential one, but this is a clear exception to the rule, not the rule. The WHC title match will feel like an afterthought, and while both guys have a ton of potential, neither feels like a big star at this point in their respective careers. So yea, IMO unless things pick up exponentially over the next 6 weeks, which could happen but seems unlikely from where I'm sitting, it's going to be HHH/Taker, Cena/Rock, and a bunch of afterthoughts, including the title matches

But on to my point, it seems like the last couple of years WWE has thrown fans like myself who are sick of the redundant status quo a bone in the months following WM. 2010 we wound up with the angle of the year with Nexus and the greatness that was the mastermind heel Wade Barrett. 2011 we were treated to the angle of the year that was the uncertainty surrounding Punk's contract situation and turned into the summer of Punk and the feud of the year with Punk/Cena.

So who else is looking forward to what WWE has up their sleeve after all of the Wrestlemania hoopla more than Mania itself?

Obviously its geared to bring back the old fans and rightly so. U can talk as much about new talents as u want, but that doesnt work. WWE have hit 4 rating only around 3 times around the time when they were looking to build new stars with the likes of Miz and Morrison and Kennedy and MVP and etc. It even sunk down to 2 at times. While hitting the 4 rating used to be a common thing in the attitude era and even at the start of WWE at the Ruthless Aggression era, it seems like a distant memory now, so wwe is trying to get its rating up by bring back the old stars.
They finally realized that wrestlers like Miz Ziggler etc arent ready for being main eventers yet.

 

[Snowman1]

Obviously its geared to bring back the old fans and rightly so. U can talk as much about new talents as u want, but that doesnt work. WWE have hit 4 rating only around 3 times around the time when they were looking to build new stars with the likes of Miz and Morrison and Kennedy and MVP and etc. It even sunk down to 2 at times. While hitting the 4 rating used to be a common thing in the attitude era and even at the start of WWE at the Ruthless Aggression era, it seems like a distant memory now, so wwe is trying to get its rating up by bring back the old stars.
They finally realized that wrestlers like Miz Ziggler etc arent ready for being main eventers yet.

Yeah, he's right... Look at TNA, who can't buy ratings right now since they don't have crap like Sting vs RVD in main-event spots. Is there anything either company can do to get ratings with stars that aren't washed up?

Dolph, I'll like your post when the likes are re-instated. Mania may be good this year, but we're so sick of the status quo that it's so difficult to care about 'Mania. Jericho is a lock to win though, what will they do at ER if Punk retains? Throw ADR at him again?

 

[JeebaK]

Yeah, he's right... Look at TNA, who can't buy ratings right now since they don't have crap like Sting vs RVD in main-event spots. Is there anything either company can do to get ratings with stars that aren't washed up?

Dolph, I'll like your post when the likes are re-instated. Mania may be good this year, but we're so sick of the status quo that it's so difficult to care about 'Mania. Jericho is a lock to win though, what will they do at ER if Punk retains? Throw ADR at him again?

I dont quite get u. What exactly do u mean by "Washed up"? Seems like the new generation of wrestlers are getting "Washed up" too early. Rock is actually just 39. In the previous eras wrestlers even used to debut at their 30s.
The new era got everything wrong. Nowadays we got people thinking that all the time wwe has to bet hinking of nurturing young talents. Thats not how this business works. Thats not how this business worked either.
RVD and Sting still got much more to give than some of the so called young talents like The Hart Dynasty, miz, evan bourne etc.

 

[Crayo]

I dont quite get u. What exactly do u mean by "Washed up"? Seems like the new generation of wrestlers are getting "Washed up" too early. Rock is actually just 39. In the previous eras wrestlers even used to debut at their 30s.
The new era got everything wrong. Nowadays we got people thinking that all the time wwe has to bet hinking of nurturing young talents. Thats not how this business works. Thats not how this business worked either.
RVD and Sting still got much more to give than some of the so called young talents like The Hart Dynasty, miz, evan bourne etc.

Oh god I'm so glad you're not working for WWE.

 

[seabs]

JeebaK reminds me of Ric Flair, the obsession with blading and wrestlers sticking around beyond their prime is too much. Seriously you can't expect the old guys to carry on forever? Of course the younger talent needs to take over.

 

[Snowman1]

I dont quite get u. What exactly do u mean by "Washed up"? Seems like the new generation of wrestlers are getting "Washed up" too early. Rock is actually just 39. In the previous eras wrestlers even used to debut at their 30s.
The new era got everything wrong. Nowadays we got people thinking that all the time wwe has to bet hinking of nurturing young talents. Thats not how this business works. Thats not how this business worked either.
RVD and Sting still got much more to give than some of the so called young talents like The Hart Dynasty, miz, evan bourne etc.

Interesting take. Other than guys from the Attitude Era, Cena seems to be the only ratings draw in wrestling today. But Sting can't go for more than 10 minutes in the ring and is only able to throw punches, kicks, hit weak Stinger Splashes, and do a bunch of Deathdrops. RVD is much slower and overweight, and botching quite a bit more often. But they get over off of nostalgia pops alone, but sadly that's the only way to draw ratings, so it seems.

Never said the Rock, but 8 years of ring rust worries me. Christian and Jericho are still quality wrestlers as well. Sheamus debuted at 32, ADR at 41, and they're great workers. But Triple H and Taker are limited; we'll see how the match goes since in hardcore matches (which this should be more hardcore than regular match) Crayo and I can beat each other with enough stuff and the crowd will love it.

We talk about building young talents because WWE/TNA can't keep living off of 1999 forever, and need to build some new stars that we'd want to see return at Wrestlemania 38. And back in 1997, WWE didn't have many stars either (Shawn Michaels and...) after Bret left to go to WCW. But they built the Rock, they built Stone Cold, they created an epic heel in VKM, and even when Austin got hurt that only opened the door for HHH and Kurt Angle to main-event. Why aren't they doing this today?

Wrestling fans are so desparate for new stars that many people are comparing Curt Hawkins to Stone Cold. Really? Maybe they just don't have the talent on the roster to make new stars out of, but it sure seems like they are just too complacent because throwing this crap out there to make us wrestling fans like the taste of it is making them money. There's just no competition.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I nailed this one.

Brock's return >> Wrestlemania

 

[seabs]

*LE Random JeebaK post appears* #Nostalgia.