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You can’t for the entire duration of his contract but you can for up to a year I want to say if I remember correctly.

I wasn't sure of any precedent had been set tbh seems like a sketchy area
 

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I wasn't sure of any precedent had been set tbh seems like a sketchy area
Sounds like an easy thing to take to trial.

Not paying someone and prohibiting them from working elsewhere?
 

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Sounds like an easy thing to take to trial.

Not paying someone and prohibiting them from working elsewhere?
I mean you can’t let people pick fights every time they show up to work. At that point Andrade is in breach.
 

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After looking it up Neville‘s contract was frozen for about 10 months before they decided to release him.
 

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After looking it up Neville‘s contract was frozen for about 10 months before they decided to release him.
Question is…was he still getting paid? Suspending/Freezing someone isn’t the question…

How long can you do that without paying them? You said you think it’s a year; I’m not really sure.
 

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Question is…was he still getting paid? Suspending/Freezing someone isn’t the question…

How long can you do that without paying them? You said you think it’s a year; I’m not really sure.
I can’t say without certainty, but I don’t believe he was paid. If I understand correctly freezing means it stops the obligations of the contract. Meaning when it unfreezes the time frozen isn’t counted towards the terms. If you wanted to pay them, you’d just pay them to sit at home during the same time period and have it count towards the terms.

I don’t remember where I saw it but I remember seeing a year was the cap, hence why they let Neville go instead of unfreeze his deal.
 

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Question is…was he still getting paid? Suspending/Freezing someone isn’t the question…

How long can you do that without paying them? You said you think it’s a year; I’m not really sure.
But if I’m mistaken, I’d still pay him to sit at home. You can’t set the precedent of starting fights to get let go of your deal.
 

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I can’t say without certainty, but I don’t believe he was paid. If I understand correctly freezing means it stops the obligations of the contract. Meaning when it unfreezes the time frozen isn’t counted towards the terms. If you wanted to pay them, you’d just pay them to sit at home during the same time period and have it count towards the terms.

I don’t remember where I saw it but I remember seeing a year was the cap, hence why they let Neville go instead of unfreeze his deal.
If that’s the case, that’s super sketchy
 

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If that’s the case, that’s super sketchy
Contracts are there for a reason. You can’t just breach them without consequences.
 

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If that’s the case, that’s super sketchy
PAC’s was specifically because he was refusing to work.

So I’m not even sure if it would apply to Andrade. If it doesn’t pay him to sit at home. He still has to wait to go to WWE.
 

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If that’s the case, that’s super sketchy
Another thing I was reading is WWE specifically has the language in their contract that says they can freeze them when they breach their deals so I’m not sure if AEW has the same language either.
 

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Andrade fucked up here and is now suffering the consequences for his actions.
 

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I don’t think he’s suffering.

They told him the day before he’d be sent home. He walked into Dynamite knowing he was going after Sammy.

Doubt dude is upset with being at home. Wasn’t like he was going to WWE anytime soon anyway.
 

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He’s probably not upset at being home, but it’s definitely not what he wants. He’d just say he’s not coming in to work and then sit at home. He’s definitely trying to get fired.