AEW/NJPW Forbidden Door June, 25th, 2023

[Kim Jong Umb]

So swerve new jacket is a tribute to Jimmy rave

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

In hindsight and maybe others foresight Kenny/Ospreay should have been main event anyway tbh

100%

 

[Smart Marx]

I disagree. A draw can be seen a respect for each other and showing that one isn't more dominate than the other.

If this was a regular show where you had control of both I’d agree or if you were leading to a rematch, but on a show that comes once a year that you charge people in the states $45-50 for, you need payoffs.

 

[Wiseman]

In hindsight and maybe others foresight Kenny/Ospreay should have been main event anyway tbh

Could be argued, for sure.

 

[Alexa]

I would say done right the draw would have worked. That match just couldn't have been the main event, which would have been fine if Osprey/Kenny was in that slot.

That is what I have been implying a draw/tie done right can mean more than a outright victory, and sure if that was case don't have it main event. Even then though a draw main eventing isnt a bad thing. New Japan did with Okada and Omega

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

If this was a regular show where you had control of both I’d agree or if you were leading to a rematch, but on a show that comes once a year that you charge people in the states $45-50 for, you need payoffs.

Idk if you did some sort of finish where both man pin each other and or both tapped that been something like especially given what we know bout Danielson now

 

[Alexa]

If this was a regular show where you had control of both I’d agree or if you were leading to a rematch, but on a show that comes once a year that you charge people in the states $45-50 for, you need payoffs.

Again, not really as I am sure a draw would have been fine, but I am not going further into this. But Again i respectfully disagree

 

[Smart Marx]

Idk if you did some sort of finish where both man pin each other and or both tapped that been something like especially given what we know bout Danielson now

Both men tapping probably could have worked if done right.

Just not a time limit draw which they just did with MJF and Adam Cole.

 

[Alexa]

Just not a time limit draw which they just did with MJF and Adam Cole.

Yeah, but that one was a sham and didnt matter, imo

 

[Smart Marx]

Again, not really as I am sure a draw would have been fine, but I am not going further into this. But Again i respectfully disagree

I also respectfully disagree.

I guess my last parting words would be if the Super Bowl ended in a draw, not sure anyone would be happy and a once a year event you charge massive money for in wrestling is essentially the same concept.

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

Both men tapping probably could have worked if done right.

Just not a time limit draw which they just did with MJF and Adam Cole.

Or Austin like passing out

 

[Alexa]

I also respectfully disagree.

I guess my last parting words would be if the Super Bowl ended in a draw, not sure anyone would be happy and a once a year event you charge massive money for in wrestling is essentially the same concept.

Guess we part ways then

Yeah...sport's analogies go over my head because I dont watch them so. All I know about the Super Bowl is the half time show and that is it

But I am done here, before Jeff comes in and tells me how much I am hating and shit so.

 

[Smart Marx]

Or Austin like passing out

I mean, I would’ve been fine with a pass out situation but that isn’t a draw the other person passes out they lose.

 

[Smart Marx]

I think the main thing I disagree with necessarily isn’t even if a draw is fine because if the match had drawn I probably would’ve just been like oh OK. I just don’t think it’s preferable to Bryan winning because that was probably the biggest mark out moment of the night for me. And I think for a lot of other people as well. Nobody saw Okada tapping out on that night. And the man hasn’t tapped since 2015. That’s why that match and that show is going to be remembered for a while I feel.

 

[Chris]