AEW All Out 2022 Media Scrum and fallout Megathread *DYNAMITE SPOILERS*

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I’ve read the thread. Every time he said Cutler did something wrong he said got why he did it in the same sentence and followed it with what Dax said that was the reason Cutler said it. I could be wrong, but I don’t think you were doing that.

Explaining why someone did something isn't saying it is OK so no you didn't read.
 

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Roy, correct me if I’m wrong. But I’m sure you was the one back last year I had to explain to a few times that I never said Punk did nothing wrong :lol I know we went back and forth on it but I’m not sure if you was the one or not
 

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Explaining why someone did something isn't saying it is OK so no you didn't read.
Bro you don’t need to excuse why someone did some thing. You can just say Cutler did bad. You don’t have to follow it up with with what the other side that as well.

Especially when they’re not remotely connected. Hyping a match has absolutely nothing to do with his tweet.
 

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Roy, correct me if I’m wrong. But I’m sure you was the one back last year I had to explain to a few times that I never said Punk did nothing wrong :lol I know we went back and forth on it but I’m not sure if you was the one or not

It is easily possible lol
 
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Mb just stop calling them the elite. The bucks n kenny are not brandons keeper or hangmans. Punk isnt ftrs keeper either. Lets keep individuals accountable instead of lumping ppl into cliques
The problem is that usually the person in questioning has a strong assocation with a group so they drugged into. I do agree with you though
 
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Bro you don’t need to excuse why someone did some thing. You can just say Cutler did bad. You don’t have to follow it up with with what the other side that as well.

Especially when they’re not remotely connected. Hyping a match has absolutely nothing to do with his tweet.

So if you explain why Punk did something you are excusing him? That's what you are saying. I said several times he shouldn't have done it. Sorry that's not good enough but at this point stop replying if you are going to ignore that I have said several times that Culter was wrong to do it. You clearly are just looking for an argument by not reading properly.

Also the alleged gaslighting is regarding the publicly asking for the match so yeah that's probs actually why Culter said it. I read the article and it mentions pitching the whole I want to work publicly thing.
 

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Like btw I read the Deadspin article that Cutler was saying he agreed with and yeah it basically said that the pitching of the match is them trying to gaslight the Elite into it and make them look bad if they turn it down. So yeah his tweet was probs in response to Dax doing stuff pubicly.

Do I think that Dax is doing that? No but I do think that's WHY Culter posted his tweet. Not excusing it but WHY he did it
 

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Whoever doing the gaslighting, hope they brought a match
 
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So if you explain why Punk did something you are excusing him? That's what you are saying. I said several times he shouldn't have done it. Sorry that's not good enough but at this point stop replying if you are going to ignore that I have said several times that Culter was wrong to do it. You clearly are just looking for an argument by not reading properly.

Also the alleged gaslighting is regarding the publicly asking for the match so yeah that's probs actually why Culter said it. I read the article and it mentions pitching the whole I want to work publicly thing.
The only reason we’re having an argument at all, is because you misread my post to sky, and you decided to reply to me like eight times constantly talking about an argument neither me or sky were even having. Saying each time I’m not looking to get into this again and you kept on replying. First of all and yes, if every time you go he did that but the other side did this and that’s why he did it, that’s you trying to soften the blow and take away the responsibility. You’re trying to compare both sides to equalize the blame for the thing Brandon Cutler chose to completely on his own.

Wanting a match that would draw money is gaslighting? I’m dead.
 

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The only reason we’re having an argument at all, is because you misread my post to sky, and you decided to reply to me like eight times constantly talking about an argument neither me or sky were even having. Saying each time I’m not looking to get into this again and you kept on replying. First of all and yes, if every time you go he did that but the other side did this and that’s why he did it, that’s you trying to soften the blow and take away the responsibility. You’re trying to compare both sides to equalize the blame for the thing Brandon Cutler chose to completely on his own.

Wanting a match that would draw money is gaslighting? I’m dead.

Oh fuck off with this crap. In that case any time you've talked about Punk, you do the same thing. Saying Punk did it for this reason or saying the Elite did bad stuff too. Don't tell me what I am trying to do. You don't speak for me so don't pretend you know what I'm trying to say.

Also I am quoting the article that Cutler said he agreed with that said it was gaslighting. I EVEN SAID I DISAGREE THAT HE IS GASLIGHTING THEM. I'M SAYING THAT WAS WHY CUTLER TWEETED WHAT HE DID
 
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I mean hypothetically if someone slandered my name in public and assaulted me for something I didn't even do... I would take a long time before trusting that person. And in wrestling you need trust.

I mean Dax is talking in public about it so it was a matter of time someone from the Elite side said something in public but everyone needs to stop doing everything on twitter and on podcasts. Leave it backstage.

At the end of the day, if the Elite don't want to work with Punk Dax should stop talking about it and both groups should do separate programmes until the Elite change their mind or Punk leaves. Dax talking about how great the match would be is probs not helping, see the abuse the Bucks got when the all the titles match never happened that Dax kept talking about.

Dax is hyping up the 6 man tag which if the Bucks don't want to do it, all he is doing is getting people's hopes up for a match and then if the Bucks don't do it, they'll get abuse online again from people (which is already happening btw). Just like with all the titles on the line where TK had other plans. If he wants the match so much, pitch it backstage. Convince them backstage.

What's pitching a match you know your co-worker doesn't want to do publicly do except pressure him into doing it at best? That's probs why Cutler feels like FTR are doing it because he has probs seen the abuse they got last time FTR were hyping up a match that didn't happen.



I mean more meant that Dax and Punk have been talking so not shocked others got fed up and sunk to a lower level. Not right but I get it. This is why Dax needs to shut the fuck up. Punk too with his instagram begging.

^Maybe if Dax would shut up about Punk, he'd stop being brought up. It feels like every single time there is a positive AEW story Dax or Punk hint at him coming back. They are also driving this

So you didn't read as I said Cutler was to blame for his stuff too and shouldn't have done it. Sorry that not everything is Elite's fault and Punk is an uwu who never does anything wrong.

See I can play that game too.

Question: You still haven't answered how Dax publicly pitching matches that the Elite might not want to do helps? Didn't help before when the all the titles on the line never happened and lead to people accusing them of burying FTR? So how does it help now? Answer it doesn't.
Speaking of gaslighting. I’ve gone back and read the first five replies you made to me after I mention the Cutler tweet and you don’t put blame on Cutler even a little bit until the one you accuse me of not reading.

I knew I wasn’t crazy.
 

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So one of those is one about why bad stories keep getting brought up so a different quote and I've made it clear several times since that I think Cutler shouldn't have done it. Hell in those I even say he shouldn't have done it. Like do you have selective reading?