AEW All Out 2022 Media Scrum and fallout Megathread *DYNAMITE SPOILERS*

[Canadian Dragon]

I can see why die hards might feel betrayed atm by punk, i certainly feel like i put him up on a higher pedestal and looked up to him for his punk rock attitude n outspokeness on social issues. When he behaves this way, makes me question myself n my judgement so i can see why some ppl are reacting w a lot of venom towards punk. Think its important to at least try to b cognisant of it and compsrtmentalize those feelings when analising pieces of the story. I get its hard tho

 

[Hidden Blaze]

If I'm staying I'm a fan, why does that example work? I didn't say I used to be a fan did I (there is talent I have old shirts off I no long love like I used to aka Enzo, Ziggler etc. and talent's shirts I've thrown in the bin for reason aka Marty and Jimmy Havoc)? No so again I don't see what that question is trying to achieve other than calling me a liar. If you didn't mean to hint that I accept the apology and sorry for being snarky to what I thought was disrespect

I could have probably worded it better maybe so that’s on me there. Tho tbh you don’t also have to have for a shirt recently to be a fan anyways. I haven’t got a Ziggler one since like, maybe 2013 or so. He’s still one of my favorites. I only asked because you was using it as “see I like Punk.” And was saying that’s not necessarily a sign of being a fan. But I wasn’t exactly trying to be like HAHA! You liar! So it’s all good.

 

[Chris]

Poyser, everyone else feels like they are trying to calm me down whilst you seem to be trying to wind me up. If you want to pretend I'm not a massive Punk fan go ahead but to act like I don't like both as wrestler is just a fucking lie. Also thinking what Punk did is wrong makes me biased? Suck his dick some more

Well, I mean that's Poyser lol

 

[Kross Rhodes]

Like, I love Kenny Omega and I think the Bucks are a good tag team to have on hand. Can’t say I hate them at all.

So I don’t think this means you hate Punk at all.

I will say I saw some posts from Jeff that looked like he hated Punk for a minute like a thousand posts ago, but we cleared that up already. It just seemed like a lot, lmao.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Blaze doesn’t like Seth anymore?

I don’t know if you can be at mod anymore either.

I did say I’m coming back around to him. It was just awhile there he wasn’t giving me anything I enjoyed. Like I honestly just grew I guess bored of him? Plus some of his online stuff(more the oh I make sooo much more money than you! I’m awesome) didn’t help much at all. But his stuff with Cody and stuff right now with Riddle has got me interested in him again.

 

[Roy Mustang]

Do you believe a single version of any of the stories that paints Punk slightly better than Bucks in any way?

Just curious.

The only one that does from memory is Ace/Punk side so no not really. I think the truth is between both sides stories but even in the middle of the two, the Bucks imo are less in the wrong. Yeah they shouldn't be storming in they should have calmed down as EVP's, yeah I doubt they were calm when they went in even IF legal was there. And IF they did leak the stuff (Which I highly doubt) they take a lot more blame than I currently give them. If Kenny was trying to protect the dog say something maybe as well. But they didn't throw weapons or bite, they didn't throw the first punch. They didn't challenge the other group to come to the locker room (whether Punk meant there and then or not), they didn't do that press conference and they didn't just in a random promo upon returning try to bury Hangman because of one line no one really cared about till Punk dragged it up

 

[Chris]

I did say I’m coming back around to him. It was just awhile there he wasn’t giving me anything I enjoyed. Like I honestly just grew I guess bored of him? Plus some of his online stuff(more the oh I make sooo much more money than you! I’m awesome) didn’t help much at all. But his stuff with Cody and stuff right now with Riddle has got me interested in him again.

2019 was rough both booking-wise and twitter-wise for Seth lol matches all banged at least still tho

 

[Hidden Blaze]

I never knew he did lmao

Oh yeah. He use to be my favorite of The Shield. Then was a huge fan when he was with The Authority(I got the undisputed future shirt). I was a pretty big fan of his for a little bit there.

 

[Roy Mustang]

Well, I mean that's Poyser lol

Yeah I do like him most days but he is a twat at times

 

[Kross Rhodes]

I can see why die hards might feel betrayed atm by punk, i certainly feel like i put him up on a higher pedestal and looked up to him for his punk rock attitude n outspokeness on social issues. When he behaves this way, makes me question myself n my judgement so i can see why some ppl are reacting w a lot of venom towards punk. Think its important to at least try to b cognisant of it and compsrtmentalize those feelings when analising pieces of the story. I get its hard tho

The thing is I love Punk and the interview stuff didn’t phase me at all. I think you were out wrestling at the time, but this is absolutely who he is. He’s a bitter man sometimes and will let you hear. He walked of WWE because of issues he had with management there.

The main thing that shocks me is the fight. He’s not known for that anymore than the Elite are. Especially if I’d the more Bucks side comes true. All that being said, I can’t lie. It probably won’t do much to change my opinion on him as a worker. Just make me sad be ruined his run.

A lot of my favorites in the late 90s and 2000s constantly had these kinda of fights in the back, as well as doing drums. Jeff Hardy survived wrestling high. Punk could potentially survive this as well. Depends on AEW now.

 

[Kross Rhodes]

Oh yeah. He use to be my favorite of The Shield. Then was a huge fan when he was with The Authority(I got the undisputed future shirt). I was a pretty big fan of his for a little bit there.

All this for me and still. He’s the best there imo.

 

[Canadian Dragon]

Like, I love Kenny Omega and I think the Bucks are a good tag team to have on hand. Can’t say I hate them at all.

So I don’t think this means you hate Punk at all.

I will say I saw some posts from Jeff that looked like he hated Punk for a minute like a thousand posts ago, but we cleared that up already. It just seemed like a lot, lmao.

Ya im just harsh n go on rants but its always in the context of the situation. Heck some is even bc i want to be challenged on behaviors hes had b4 n if ppl onlind r exagerating or not. I find it interesting. I do pepper in some shitposts tho no question. Best to ask n ill do the same in the future if unsure!

 

[Roy Mustang]

Tbf Punk from memory had one fight in TNA BUT it was with Teddy Hart so I blame Teddy Hart 100% without knowing the story cause teddy Hart is teddy Hart

Also off-topic but even in a peak year for Seth matches wise, he's still easily the 3rd best in the SHIELD imo.

 

[Poyser]

Poyser, everyone else feels like they are trying to calm me down whilst you seem to be trying to wind me up. If you want to pretend I'm not a massive Punk fan go ahead but to act like I don't like both as wrestler is just a fucking lie. Also thinking what Punk did is wrong makes me biased? Suck his dick some more

I’m not trying to wind you up lol, should I stop posting because you’re mad? I’m not mad in the slightest nor am I bothered about you being aggro cos I can take it just fine. If you’re getting mad about me trying to talk to you then that’s a you problem. I’m not insulting you or anything, I’m just pointing out that in this situation you are biased because you chose a side before you’d heard any details, just as I did. I never said you don’t like Punk or don’t like them both or whatever, but I do know you love the Bucks and are pretty clearly mad at Punk for his rant, which is making you biased to this situation. I’m biased to this situation too because A) I’m not really invested in the well being of AEW B) I’m a punk fan C) I don’t really care about the bucks D) I found Punk’s press conference rant incredibly entertaining. It’s not about hating anybody. You keep saying I hate the bucks, I don’t hate them I just don’t care about them at all and after trying a few of their matches, decided they weren’t for me and skip all their segments. Don’t see me getting mad about you saying I HATE them though do you?

we’re not journalists so us not being objective doesn’t cost us our integrity. Which is something I unfortunately cannot say for Dave THE HACK Meltzer

 

[Roy Mustang]

I’m not trying to wind you up lol, should I stop posting because you’re mad? I’m not mad in the slightest nor am I bothered about you being aggro cos I can take it just fine. If you’re getting mad about me trying to talk to you then that’s a you problem. I’m not insulting you or anything, I’m just pointing out that in this situation you are biased because you chose a side before you’d heard any details, just as I did. I never said you don’t like Punk or don’t like them both or whatever, but I do know you love the Bucks and are pretty clearly mad at Punk for his rant, which is making you biased to this situation. I’m biased to this situation too because A) I’m not really invested in the well being of AEW B) I’m a punk fan C) I don’t really care about the bucks D) I found Punk’s press conference rant incredibly entertaining. It’s not about hating anybody. You keep saying I hate the bucks, I don’t hate them I just don’t care about them at all and after trying a few of their matches, decided they weren’t for me and skip all their segments. Don’t see me getting mad about you saying I HATE them though do you?

we’re not journalists so us not being objective doesn’t cost us our integrity. Which is something I unfortunately cannot say for Dave THE HACK Meltzer

Ah yes totally unbiased Poyser.