A Good Day to Die Hard: Mafia with a Vengeance [Game Thread]

[Chris]

don't know how I feel about that Grim vote on Lethal bc I actually agree Lethal didn't look good but at the same time Lethal is such an easy target on D1 and that's VERY generic reasoning to vote him as well. I don't even think I'd describe Lethal as "toothless" during his readback, he had some bite, I just didn't think it made a lot of sense (especially that Haza/Sky part)

 

[Sky]

I clearly come to conclusions on both Do you guys not understand how I put my thoughts on paper or what. I can disagree with Ekko's conclusion but like his explanation enough to buy that he's town? Does this not compute?

I already responded to the Jeff point that you're regurgitating here since you're pulling my quote from his response

Leaves it way too open to wriggling into the "right" view depending on flips though, which is what I'm getting at. And the summary of your reply:

No I don't think so personally lol and idk if you said it in thread at all but we talked about it yesterday in the main chat and I know it was a real thing so I'm saying it could explain your lack of activity yesterday but I don't really think it's a strong explanation and I'd expect more from you regardless at the time I'd made that post

This just feels like a "no u"

 

[RDK]

As has been said, Lethal absolutely needs to expand on his Ekko vote

 

[Canadian Dragon]

That's certainly true Haza, I do tend to try and buddy/town read my accuser if I feel I'm in trouble. I don't really feel that's the case here however as three votes isn't a huge deal. I won't continue to make excuses for my lack of effort yesterday however. I'm aware of how it looked, it is what it is.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

After reading back on Barry, it’s a bit hard to read him, for me anyway, so I’m wanting to stay null on him at the moment, don’t really want to push either way until he does something that seems way off. But I’m going to be keeping my eyes on him.

 

[Sky]

Final thoughts on readback:

Was down with the Jeff direction until he actually posted and made some decent points

Lethal probably doing Just Lethal Things

Barry's posting feels empty and given that that's not what is expected from town Barry, would be willing to follow that way if that gains steam

Otherwise I'm staying where I am

 

[Chris]

Leaves it way too open to wriggling into the "right" view depending on flips though, which is what I'm getting at. And the summary of your reply:

This just feels like a "no u"

I literally don't know what you're saying once again here lol

 

[RDK]

Final thoughts on readback:

Was down with the Jeff direction until he actually posted and made some decent points

Lethal probably doing Just Lethal Things

Barry's posting feels empty and given that that's not what is expected from town Barry, would be willing to follow that way if that gains steam

Otherwise I'm staying where I am

Which of Jeff's points do you like that have swayed you from the direction?

What do you expect from town Barry, i've seen town Barry lack any sort of caring or substance many times

 

[Bobby Barrows]

Well I do remember Chris and I getting into an argument earlier but it was semantics for the most part.

Did sandwich man ever follow up on the poyser question Fourth quoted? I just remember more jokes after Jeff answered, wasn't sure if he actually had a point or just threw name out

I asked bc it seemed like you were using it as an example to Fourth of you not fluffing but the vote seemed pretty fluffy to me still lol it would have been worse if you tried to justify it as serious tho considering Lethal hasn't posted

What did you mean by "aversion to actually playing" btw Sky like you think Jeff is just avoiding game play completely?

I'd group Zinger in this too, he literally asked Jeff about Poyser and then they both just kept joking after. No attempt at actually solving anything after the initial question even though that was allegedly the goal

I will say these early posts feel like town Chris trying to push things along and actively looking to solve the game at an early standpoint, which is a good sign for me. I do want his opinion on Zinger if he can offer it because I think Zinger for me went down down down for me after the last few posts he made while I was alive like the little too on the nose "don't shoot me" post.

So with that said, I think Chris is a slight town lean.

 

[RDK]

I literally don't know what you're saying once again here lol

Shes basically saying you're not taking a strong enough stance which leaves you open to refuting participation in a certain camp later on

 

[Bobby Barrows]

don't know how I feel about that Grim vote on Lethal bc I actually agree Lethal didn't look good but at the same time Lethal is such an easy target on D1 and that's VERY generic reasoning to vote him as well. I don't even think I'd describe Lethal as "toothless" during his readback, he had some bite, I just didn't think it made a lot of sense (especially that Haza/Sky part)

Gonna stop you right there, Chris. Explain to me what about these posts have uh, bite, in them, when they aren't very aggressive, they're actually quite tame for Lethal. You'd think if he as town found a connection like this he'd pounce on it and keep pushing on about it between Sky or Haza and he really just kinda didn't. He mentioned it at most, moved on, and then he's got Jeff from a slight scum lean to a null again?

So if he's suspect of Sky and Haza reaching the same conclusion, why would he have Jeff as a slight scum lean? Doesn't really make sense to me.

Haza and Sky not feeling a town Jeff vibe

Possible alliance between Haza and Sky - seems odd for such a connection to be made between two who don't normally see things the same.

Ok so Jeff attacks Sky's point with more of the passive tone mentioned earlier. Interesting

Correct I was seeing that, however, it just seems odd at that point that both of them arrived at the same conclusion within the timeframe. Could just be my paranoia (early suss of Jeff to try and appear town) or could just be coincidence

I guess null with a tint of orange creeping in. I'm hoping to have fresher eyes after some sleep

 

[Canadian Dragon]

@The Grimch what are your thoughts on Tweet and Ekko

 

[Sky]

Which of Jeff's points do you like that have swayed you from the direction?

What do you expect from town Barry, i've seen town Barry lack any sort of caring or substance many times

Jeff going at Chris and his analysis of Lethal's posts feel like they come from a place of sincerity

And Barry, I'd expect more emotional investment from him, we've gotten weak reads at most. Perhaps he should be voted up because that always brings the truth out with him

 

[Bobby Barrows]

@The Grimch what are your thoughts on Tweet and Ekko

This feels like such a weak argument to attempt to pivot suss onto me especially considering the fluff phase of the game was half of those pages.

6 nulls is perfectly fine on day 1 in the early game because most people's metas manifest as the game goes on. I'm not even gonna pretend I'm great at the game by auto-reading people on posts that could swing either way on the alignment scale.

As I've mentioned in the past, I play to my mood and whether my role makes me feel more confident. Of course I'm working rn so I haven't had the chance to really chew on stuff.

As for the wagon, I've been chatting with you and As I mentioned it feels like a fairly weak attempt to throw suspicion upon me without actually doing any work. You're nudging people towards me as a direction and making people do the work themselves instead of trying to lead people towards me. Make that what you will.

And Tweet is tweet, an Enigma who doesn't give a shit as town and will actively be more hostile as town. I don't think I've seen hostile tweet.

Here ya go mate

 

[Sky]

Gonna stop you right there, Chris. Explain to me what about these posts have uh, bite, in them, when they aren't very aggressive, they're actually quite tame for Lethal. You'd think if he as town found a connection like this he'd pounce on it and keep pushing on about it between Sky or Haza and he really just kinda didn't. He mentioned it at most, moved on, and then he's got Jeff from a slight scum lean to a null again?

If I had to guess, he's pussyfooting around me because we had issues in the past