Royal Rumble 5 Rumored Winners of the 2016 Royal Rumble

  • Welcome to "The New" Wrestling Smarks Forum!

    I see that you are not currently registered on our forum. It only takes a second, and you can even login with your Facebook! If you would like to register now, pease click here: Register

    Once registered please introduce yourself in our introduction thread which can be found here: Introduction Board


The GOAT

The Architect
Hotshot
Joined
Mar 23, 2014
Messages
3,334
Reaction score
1,703
Points
0
Age
37
I get what you are saying but I still think this change a lot for future events. Yes, Seth got screwed and it sucks he didn't beat Punk's title streak but things happen and we have to look for the good in this, which is what I am doing.

He was supposedly booked to drop the title to Reigns at Survivor Series anyway. So the only thing it really changed was A. No definitive conclusion to a title reign that spanned across almost all of 2015, and B. No HHH/Rollins feud until later after Seth returns from injury.
 

Neptune

我很喜歡吃餅乾
Joined
Oct 1, 2015
Messages
9,768
Reaction score
1,127
Points
0
He was supposedly booked to drop the title to Reigns at Survivor Series anyway. So the only thing it really changed was A. No definitive conclusion to a title reign that spanned across almost all of 2015, and B. No HHH/Rollins feud until later after Seth returns from injury.

Say he didn't get injured and dropped the title... Roman would go on to feud with Seth till the RR which would lead to what they planned. Say it is Roman vs HHH at WM... Where would Seth play into this? They want to push Roman. By pushing Roman, they would have been using Seth. As far as Seth's career goes, I think this may have saved his a bit. They tend to ruin good wrestlers like Seth by having them lose to whoever they want to put over. He would have ended up like Ambrose. Not to say Ambrose is bad where he is but Seth deserves to be fighting at the top IMO.
 

The GOAT

The Architect
Hotshot
Joined
Mar 23, 2014
Messages
3,334
Reaction score
1,703
Points
0
Age
37
Say he didn't get injured and dropped the title... Roman would go on to feud with Seth till the RR which would lead to what they planned. Say it is Roman vs HHH at WM... Where would Seth play into this? They want to push Roman. By pushing Roman, they would have been using Seth. As far as Seth's career goes, I think this may have saved his a bit. They tend to ruin good wrestlers like Seth by having them lose to whoever they want to put over. He would have ended up like Ambrose. Not to say Ambrose is bad where he is but Seth deserves to be fighting at the top IMO.

If Seth had never gotten injured, then it'd probably be either Reigns vs Cena or Reigns vs Lesnar for the title and Triple vs Seth in a separate match. The former would take main event precedence over the latter, obviously. (The Rock vs Triple H was obviously the originally planned main event as we all know, but that's looking less and less like a possibility now. Seth was HHH's back-up opponent for Mania if The Rock idea fell through, but Seth's injury has now forced them to put that match off to later as well.)

I will concede that Seth's injury does give them a very convenient way of turning him babyface now, since him being gone for months will make it incredibly easy for the audience to welcome him with a big pop when he comes back and then they can roll with it from there, ala HHH himself in January of '02 (his return pop at Madison Square Garden is one of the loudest you'll ever hear.) They can easily play up the idea of how him sitting at home injured for all these months made him rethink things and have a change of heart.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Neptune

Neptune

我很喜歡吃餅乾
Joined
Oct 1, 2015
Messages
9,768
Reaction score
1,127
Points
0
If Seth had never gotten injured, then it'd probably be either Reigns vs Cena or Reigns vs Lesnar for the title and Triple vs Seth in a separate match. The former would take main event precedence over the latter, obviously. (The Rock vs Triple H was obviously the originally planned main event as we all know, but that's looking less and less like a possibility now. Seth was HHH's back-up opponent for Mania if The Rock idea fell through, but Seth's injury has now forced them to put that match off to later as well.)

I will concede that Seth's injury does give them a very convenient way of turning him babyface now, since him being gone for months will make it incredibly easy for the audience to welcome him with a big pop when he comes back and then they can roll with it from there, ala HHH himself in January of '02 (his return pop at Madison Square Garden is one of the loudest you'll ever hear.) They can easily play up the idea of how him sitting at home injured for all these months made him rethink things and have a change of heart.

That makes sense I guess. And yeah, him coming back as a face will be what is best for business. Heck if can be back for wrestle mania, maybe if they do the Roman vs HHH match, he can come out after Roman wins and congratulate him thus starting the HHH vs Seth feud.
 

The GOAT

The Architect
Hotshot
Joined
Mar 23, 2014
Messages
3,334
Reaction score
1,703
Points
0
Age
37
That makes sense I guess. And yeah, him coming back as a face will be what is best for business. Heck if can be back for wrestle mania, maybe if they do the Roman vs HHH match, he can come out after Roman wins and congratulate him thus starting the HHH vs Seth feud.

Eh, I'd find that corny, tbh. They should maintain at least some consistency and not pretend Seth is suddenly friends with Reigns again after all the shit he along with The Authority put him through. If he isn't fit to wrestle by Wrestlemania (99.9% chance he won't be), then he shouldn't appear on-screen at all imo.

I actually have a cool idea on how to book Seth's return and feud with HHH, but I'm gonna save it for its own thread instead of just giving it away in this one.
 

Neptune

我很喜歡吃餅乾
Joined
Oct 1, 2015
Messages
9,768
Reaction score
1,127
Points
0
Eh, I'd find that corny, tbh. They should maintain at least some consistency and not pretend Seth is suddenly friends with Reigns again after all the shit he along with The Authority put him through. If he isn't fit to wrestle by Wrestlemania (99.9% chance he won't be), then he shouldn't appear on-screen at all imo.

I actually have a cool idea on how to book Seth's return and feud with HHH, but I'm gonna save it for its own thread instead of just giving it away in this one.

Well I wanna read it so go post it! lol
 

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
62,436
Reaction score
14,003
Points
118
Wow, you guys are really overthinking this... I'm so proud ;)

Seriously though I don't see Vince stripping Reigns of the title. I think it is safe to assume Roman Reigns is going to go into Wrestlemania with the belt. The Royal Rumble will likely still be a number one contender match like it always is.

As to who goes against Reigns at Wrestlemania, I have no idea. I'm going to assume it is either Brock Lesnar or John Cena. Last years Wrestlemania was done so well and the match between Lesnar and Reigns was so much better than expected that I think they would want to capitalize on that again. Not only that with them really trying for that attendance record and it looking like the Rock won't be wrestling, I'd think they'd want Lesnar in as high profile a match as possible.

So safely I am sticking with Lesnar vs Reigns. Funny because it was the safe bet match last year and I didn't want to see it. I think it is the safe bet match this year and I want to see it.

I'd love it to be Triple H, but I don't see him putting himself in the Rumble to win it. I know my husband mentioned they wouldn't waste a Triple H match on Fastlane, but they could put him against Reigns at the Rumble. They haven't announced a main event yet and since Reigns' win came in a rematch, I highly doubt they are going to give us Sheamus vs Reigns yet again. If you count the Survivor Series, that would be three times in a row and I definitely don't want to see it again. So HHH might fight at the Rumble, Reigns retains and faces Lesnar at Wrestlemania.

Now, I would love something like Daniel Bryan, but the realist in me doesn't see it happening.
 

The GOAT

The Architect
Hotshot
Joined
Mar 23, 2014
Messages
3,334
Reaction score
1,703
Points
0
Age
37
Who is there realistically left for HHH to fight at Mania if not Reigns? It isn't gonna be Ambrose, sorry. And there's zero chance he decides not to wrestle at all, especially with them needing as much star power for next year's show as possible. With The Rock out of the picture, I don't see anyone.

HHH has wanted to give the rub to Reigns since 2014 (a match between them was originally planned for Summerslam 2014, but they postponed it and then Reigns' injury put it on the back burner completely until now) and since Wrestlemania is the perfect culmination of long-term storylines, it just makes infinitely more sense to ride it all the way out instead of suddenly switching gears to something else this close to Mania, especially when there clearly isn't anyone else on the roster right now that HHH would be interested in fighting.
 

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
62,436
Reaction score
14,003
Points
118
Who is there realistically left for HHH to fight at Mania if not Reigns? It isn't gonna be Ambrose, sorry. And there's zero chance he decides not to wrestle at all, especially with them needing as much star power for next year's show as possible. With The Rock out of the picture, I don't see anyone.

HHH has wanted to give the rub to Reigns since 2014 (a match between them was originally planned for Summerslam 2014, but they postponed it and then Reigns' injury put it on the back burner completely until now) and since Wrestlemania is the perfect culmination of long-term storylines, it just makes infinitely more sense to ride it all the way out instead of suddenly switching gears to something else this close to Mania, especially when there clearly isn't anyone else on the roster right now that HHH would be interested in fighting.

There's still three and a half months until Wrestlemania. WWE manufactures plenty of things in the last minute. Andre the Giant vs Hulk Hogan was manufactured one month and 22 days before Wrestlemania 3.

The only way I can see HHH going against Reigns is if Reigns loses the championship beforehand. Having HHH, someone who hasn't even wrestled since last Wrestlemania and only a small handful of matches in the few years before that, in the main event championship match of a Wrestlemania WWE is expecting to sell 100,000 tickets to makes no sense. Yes Triple H has star power and I love the guy... but it makes no sense to have the main event be a match that everyone watching knows will not end with HHH becoming the champion. That's boring. You said it yourself about people knowing Triple H wants to give Reigns the rub, so you're proposing a main event with absolutely zero possibility of Reigns losing. Sounds like a pretty lousy way to promote the card you want to break the attendance record.

I admit the fact that I could be wrong, but I really just think it would be a bad idea.
 

edge4ever

The Game
Technician
Joined
Jan 15, 2014
Messages
6,222
Reaction score
2,273
Points
0
Age
34
Location
Chicago
Reigns vs Sheamus at the rumble, then let rusev fight at fast lane against reigns, just as a filler. Or, Vince faces Roman for the belt to build the triple h vs Roman match at mania.
 

The GOAT

The Architect
Hotshot
Joined
Mar 23, 2014
Messages
3,334
Reaction score
1,703
Points
0
Age
37
There's still three and a half months until Wrestlemania. WWE manufactures plenty of things in the last minute. Andre the Giant vs Hulk Hogan was manufactured one month and 22 days before Wrestlemania 3.

The only way I can see HHH going against Reigns is if Reigns loses the championship beforehand. Having HHH, someone who hasn't even wrestled since last Wrestlemania and only a small handful of matches in the few years before that, in the main event championship match of a Wrestlemania WWE is expecting to sell 100,000 tickets to makes no sense. Yes Triple H has star power and I love the guy... but it makes no sense to have the main event be a match that everyone watching knows will not end with HHH becoming the champion. That's boring. You said it yourself about people knowing Triple H wants to give Reigns the rub, so you're proposing a main event with absolutely zero possibility of Reigns losing. Sounds like a pretty lousy way to promote the card you want to break the attendance record.

I admit the fact that I could be wrong, but I really just think it would be a bad idea.

The predictability of it will be irrelevant as long as the way they progress the feud up 'till then gets people amped up enough to see the match and the inevitable conclusion finally go down. There's a ton of Wrestlemania main events (and especially non-Mania main events) that were predictable but not to where it negatively affected the excitement of seeing the outcome either way.

Wrestlemania sells almost entirely on brand name anyway. Reigns vs Cena or Reigns vs Brock would have no better chance of selling extra tickets than Reigns vs Triple H would. I don't see them selling 100,000 tickets either way. The Wrestlemania set alone (depending on how large it ends up being) will chew up too much room within the stadium for that to happen.
 

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
62,436
Reaction score
14,003
Points
118
The predictability of it will be irrelevant as long as the way they progress the feud up 'till then gets people amped up enough to see the match and the inevitable conclusion finally go down. There's a ton of Wrestlemania main events (and especially non-Mania main events) that were predictable but not to where it negatively affected the excitement of seeing the outcome either way.

Wrestlemania sells almost entirely on brand name anyway. Reigns vs Cena or Reigns vs Brock would have no better chance of selling extra tickets than Reigns vs Triple H would. I don't see them selling 100,000 tickets either way. The Wrestlemania set alone (depending on how large it ends up being) will chew up too much room within the stadium for that to happen.

Perhaps it's irrelevant to you but it's not irrelevant to everyone. Predictability was the major factor that many fans seemed to complain about when Roman Reigns won the Rumble last year and set up the main event vs. Lesnar. Fans may pay to see the main event simply because it's Triple H, but to say the predictability is irrelevant is just not accurate.

In regards to setting the attendance record, it's more complicated than just selling out. WWE wants to set the attendance record, not the sales record. They are different. First, WWE has to sell over 108,713 to set their goal. This is not a guarantee for several reasons. The first being it's never been done before by any indoor event in the history of indoor events. Second, Wrestlemania is never guaranteed a sell out simply because it is Wrestlemania. Wrestlemania 30, which had the star power of simply being the 30th one, had floor seats still available only days before the event. And in that arena they had 30,000 less seats to sell than they did this time around (WrestleMania 30 Tickets: Is the 2014 WWE PPV Sold Out? How To Purchase Seats For Sunday's Event). And of course this event had the predictable main event of Batista vs Randy Orton which WWE had been talking about for months and before Daniel Bryan got involved (LONG after tickets went on sale) it was assumed that Batista was going to win.

You say that Wrestlemania sells out on brand name anyway, but that you don't see them selling 100,000 tickets. In that very arena, they sold 108,000 tickets to a basketball game and wrestling events can add more seats than a basketball game does. So the space and possibility is undoubtedly there. They cannot NOT sell out tickets and meet their goal at the same time.

Second, after WWE sells those seats, they have to fill every single one of them. Selling out is not a guarantee of setting the attendance record since the attendance is counted during the actual event. Many of the tickets are bought for the mere purpose of selling them, and plenty of times they don't get bought. I've been to several Wrestlemanias and seen plenty of empty seats in them. So it's inaccurate to assume that they will set the attendance record simply because this is Wrestlemania. They need to put a lot of work into the card itself and I don't see them doing it with a Triple H vs Roman Reigns main event for the very reason that it will not be fun for the fans who hate predictability in their line up.

But that's just my opinion and I am not trying to discount yours, just to present the way I see it. I agree that the match makes sense on a certain level and that I personally would love to see Triple H headlining another Wrestlemania. The man is one of my favorites of all time. But I just don't see it happening at this event for the reasons I have laid out. I could be wrong and I accept that if I am. But as much as it makes sense to you, it really doesn't to me.
 

Neptune

我很喜歡吃餅乾
Joined
Oct 1, 2015
Messages
9,768
Reaction score
1,127
Points
0
I think after tomorrows Raw will will get an idea of who the winner will be but I am still keeping my fingers crossed for HHH cause he puts on one hell of a WM show. His matches never disappoint and him vs Roman would be epic.
 

Nice Person

The Artiste
Joined
Sep 19, 2013
Messages
454
Reaction score
68
Points
0
Age
69
rr-min.jpg

#5 Daniel Bryan

Recently, we came to know that Daniel Bryan would be allowed to wrestle again if he tones down his wrestling style. Pushing him back into the ring is a risk, but if Daniel Bryan enters the Royal Rumble, then goes on to face Roman Reigns at WrestleMania, it will be a great storyline.
At Fast Lane, Bryan and Reigns had a classic match and though we might not get to see such physicality due to the situation of Bryan, we will have a solid match.
This, however, will badly effect Reigns as the fans back Bryan and everything that WWE managed to achieve at TLC will be torn to shreds.

#4 Dean Ambrose

Lady luck finally smiled at Dean Ambrose when he won the Intercontinental championship at TLC. He is likely to continue his feud with Kevin Owens until Royal Rumble but that does not take him away from the actual Rumble match.
Ambrose is still wrestling as a babyface but we all know how brilliant he is, as a heel superstar.
Ambrose, could win the Royal Rumble match, turn heel and face off against Roman Reigns at WrestleMania for the WWE championship. It will be a solid storyline and since Reigns and Ambrose knows each other very well, the match is bound to reach the expectation levels.

#3 John Cena

A WrestleMania season without John Cena is clearly not on WWE’s script. They will bring back the Cenation leader at one point or the other and if the return happens at Royal Rumble, then it will open up the possibility of a five-star match between Roman Reigns and Cena at WrestleMania.
Reigns, luckily or unluckily, was tagged as Cena 2.0 long back. Now that the fans are backing the Samoan Superman, a Reigns vs. Cena match will draw big. If Vince McMahon wants to take it to the next level, he could turn Cena heel in an NWo style angle, with Reigns as the major opposition for Cena.

#2 Brock Lesnar

Just like John Cena, Brock Lesnar is a superstar that is bound to return before the WrestleMania season picks up momentum. The Beast, who lost his WWE Championship at last year’s WrestleMania, will be eager to get the title back.
And, the best way he could achieve the same is by entering the Royal Rumble.
Lesnar could embark on a demolition rally in the Royal Rumble match and come out as the winner so that he could face Reigns at WrestleMania. The fans are unlikely to complain about the same since most of them would love to see another Reigns vs. Lesnar bout considering how the last one finished.

#1 Triple H

WWE released an official statement about Hunter’s injury after TLC. This sets up the stage for a surprise Royal Rumble entrance for him. Triple H was taken out viciously by Reigns at TLC, and now that Vince McMahon is back on television, WWE is likely to give Hunter a break until Rumble.
Hunter, with a score to settle against Reigns, could then return for the Rumble match, screw the other entrants with the help of Authority, and walk out as the winner. In turn, we will, get to see a Triple H vs. Roman Reigns showdown at WrestleMania for the WWE Championship and Triple H could put over Reigns easily.

source
DB Needs to deep six the beard & long hippie hair and come back a a clean shaven baby face...
 

Neptune

我很喜歡吃餅乾
Joined
Oct 1, 2015
Messages
9,768
Reaction score
1,127
Points
0
DB Needs to deep six the beard & long hippie hair and come back a a clean shaven baby face...

He should I mean the beard has been his thing for so long now. Even a short beard would be fine.