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    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    Wasn't Shawn being groomed as one of their top faces around that time leading into Wrestlemania 12 though? Did he sell out arenas? Also didn't he draw low buyrates? Punk isn't a face he's still the top guy in the WWE isn't he?
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    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    He did draw I'll concede that but he was never a big draw you know? I mentioned WCW was on fire but even when it wasn't business was down I believe 95/ early 96. Wrestling took a hit and sadly HBK as the face takes the hit from it. It's like when Raw doesn't draw well in 2013 it's Punk's fault...
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    What song are you listening to?

  4. seabs

    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    HBK was never that big a draw either brah, compare their rating to WCW at the time. Admittedly WCW was on fire but HBK never got the big numbers others did.
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    The Botch of the Day!

    That's what I said, it was DZ's fault :mad2: also Punk missed the pay dirt so ended up falling into like a noob :downer:
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    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    Whilst I understand that you've got to understand that if the megaface loses it doesn't mean the guy who beat him becomes a draw.
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    The Botch of the Day!

    That was D'Z fault tbf, I remember when people shat on Cara for it.
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    From a technical aspect, where dose Bryan rank in the all time list?

    It's too hard to write 10 :annoyed: I nearly left Steamboat off also, can we make it top 50?
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    Best talkers in Wrestling

    Hero ? Dudes a great promo.
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    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    Cena is the top draw currently but he lost to Punk, Hogan was the top guy at WM 6 but he lost to Warrior. Guys lose brah, just because a guy has the strap doesn't mean he's the man.
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    From a technical aspect, where dose Bryan rank in the all time list?

    Misawa Kobiash Liger Bret Hart Owen Hart Rick Rude Steamboat Flair Benoit Eddie G Malenko Better Perfect? Shit Curt Henning, where the fuck does he go?
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    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    Bob wasn't a draw either that's why, maybe at his initial run but in the early 90s people didn't care enough to pay to see him. You can be great without being a monster draw but you can't be the greatest IMO.
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    Why do you watch independent wrestling?

    It's fun, it's why I love PWG so much. The guys are enjoying it, in WWE half of the matches look they're throwing the guys out there by default.
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    From a technical aspect, where dose Bryan rank in the all time list?

    I forgot him, not sure where to put him in all honesty. I need to do this list now :neymar2:
  15. seabs

    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    Damn Video it killed the radio star :annoyed: also if money was to be made out of it he would have done it on PPV bro, you know as well as I do that Vince is a money hungry slagbag.
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    From a technical aspect, where dose Bryan rank in the all time list?

    Malenko was great as way Finlay, that wasn't a completed list there are loads of guys I've missed it was just the kind of guys I'd put in also it wasn't in order except for Misawa being #1.
  17. seabs

    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    So you have someone undercontract until the end of January but he needed to drop the title at a random house show in October because he was leaving even though he worked 2 further PPVs?
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    From a technical aspect, where dose Bryan rank in the all time list?

    A fair way down in all honesty. Misawa Kobiashi Angle Benoit Liger Eddie Malenko Bret Owen Steamboat Flair Finlay Henning Regal Backlund These are guys I'd put above him, in their prime they were all more enjoyable working the style IMO. It's great company for him to be in though.
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    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    Bullshit, Flair competed in the 93 Rumble why didn't he drop it then? Hell he even worked Survivor Series vs Perfect before leaving, he dropped the strap in October I think but stayed with the company until the end of January.
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    Punk might be off until SummerSlam

    \_/ Why did they have him lose the title at a houseshow then? If people wanted to see him lose so badly why not put on PPV, Vince is a business man if Flair was drawing as a heel he'd have put the strap on Bret at a PPV.