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  1. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    But I don't remember if they were trying to shop it to other networks or just hoping AOL Time Warner would let them stay on Turner stations for a little bit until they figured something out
  2. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    but Eric and Fusient did, and if I recall correctly it was mainly the lack of TV deal that made that fall through
  3. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    I think for lack of better terminology, his entitlement and capitalistic spirit were huge in doing All In and all that came next lol
  4. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    Troop sniped me on the perfect storm take lol
  5. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    Generally I think it was a perfect storm. Remove any of Kenny, Bucks, Cody, Jericho and TK from the equation and I think none of this happens the way it has
  6. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    Jericho choosing to wrestling Japan was critical as well but even that, along with TK's general interest in the core that would become AEW to begin with, was all spurred on by the popularity of the Bullet Club :lol
  7. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    Cody doesn’t get as big without the Bullet Cub. I also think they never would have done something like All In without Cody. Maybe ROH/NJPW at MSG still but that wouldn't have had the same ripple effect. Of course The Elite never would have been able to build something the size of AEW without TK...
  8. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    But overall I think the arrangement with Cody in WWE is best for all parties nowadays
  9. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    I wouldn't downplay his contributions to the business
  10. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    that would be quite impressive
  11. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    Also been no character like Hangman in a major company
  12. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    There's been nothing like the Bloodline before
  13. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    Yeah, I can see the parallels but quite obviously different. Though, it wouldn't really matter that much if it was more similar.
  14. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    As far as copying angles, gimmicks or even bits, I think that's a different conversation. I think this conversation is more about running your own bits into your ground and booking your own company repetitively.
  15. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    Potentially as a free agent. But again I circle back to I don't care if he's released or not :lol I am just pontificating mostly. I'm not tuning in anywhere to see if he'll show up. If he's truly released though, hope it works out for him. He can definitely be MLW champ by the end of the year if...
  16. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    I would be surprised if anyone thought chasing social media engagement (which is inherently like 80% bots minimum) was good wrestling booking
  17. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    I should say ultimately that there's nothing wrong with taking the check and job stability, I'd just hate for people to fall victim to corporate trappings of "go ahead and sign away the next 3 years if your professional prime, we promise we have big plans for you" :lol
  18. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    But even so, they immediately neutered the angle with Punk coming back immediately, getting ADR in the mix and overshadowing his story with Triple H and Nash bullshit. He held the belt for a record setting amount of time at the moment but no Mania main events and way more often than not, someone...
  19. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    also just vastly, vastly more popular and frankly, impctful than Kross. Back then, Punk was 1 of 1 on the roster and exactly what fans were clamoring for. Kross is pretty niche and if WWE weren't already the enemy for a lot of people, almost no one would care :lol
  20. Santa Hoss

    General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

    I don't think they've ever done an about face with an "underutilized" talent who was close to their contract ending, or even the ones they've released and then rehired. Punk, Truth, Maverick in recent times. They'll capitalize on the hype but as far as anything long term? Get fucked
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