Samoa Joe Is Overrated

[Chuck Taylor's Grenade]

That's not what I said, at all. Wrestling is an art, and it is designed to create emotion. If you rely on kewl movez and sweet flipz then you're obviously going miss when true psychology and emotion comes into play.

Thank you for actually getting it.

And as far as Samoa Joe having a limited moveset just because someone doesn't do certain moves doesn't mean they can't. Alot of it depends on the style of wrestling the character is portraying. Someone who's supposed to be a brawler isn't going to be using alot of submissions for example. Plus there is a difference between a heel moveset and a face moveset. A heel moveset is going to be slower, more reserved because it's not the heel's job to do flippy flips and hotshit moves. That is the face's job. The face is supposed to shine. The heel is supposed to generate heat for the face comeback.

 

[noumenon]

Ready.......

SAMOA JOE < UMAGA

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Agreed

 

[X-Sterl-X]

Well... what the hell

Umaga vs Joe

Strength:Umaga wins this one for sure

Micwork:Joe wins here easy, seeing is how Umaga has yet to speak english

Athletic ability:Joe is more athletic than Umaga, but this one is pretty close

Charisma:They both are pretty flat character wise

So in that regard Joe over Umaga

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

I disagree. I think Umaga is more athletic, now that you are comparing them. The moves he does are practically unthinkable for a guy of his size and weight.

Also, in the charisma department, what does it say about Samoa Joe that is neck to neck in that department with a guy who never speaks?

 

[Axis]

Plus, it's utterly ridiculous to split wrestling ability into four generic categories and then base your decision off of those.

 

[X-Sterl-X]

Good point, guess I was just lazy to go in depth with it