NJPW G1 Climax 25 - July 19 - August 17, 2025

[Roy Mustang]

The crowd during the match is my source for people cheering EVIL. Also J Cast has shown several tweets from Japanese people wanting EVIL to win because he isn't part time.

Takeshita winning doesn't change the booking of the rest of the tournament. Happy Takeshita won but yeah deffo not into NJPW at the moment and almost glad TK kind of only did a few forbidden door style matches as it has led to a much better show

 

[Brett]

Feel like Khan's just playing devil's advocate here, but you gotta just be daft if you think this was even remotely the right way to go about booking this G-1. The only real purpose this Takeshita win serves is to add significant juice to Takeshita vs Okada, which has been looming for quite some time now and inherently does not help NJPW in the long run.

Also to ask for a source for the fans cheering for EVIL over Take during the final, but hitting the classic HoT's good for business when the actual anecdotal evidence of New Japan's attendance being down tremendously is some real locked in stuff. (I know this obviously is more due to the fact that NJPW has lost Naito and Okada over the past 2 years; but if HoT was so great for business then they should fill in those shoes and draw crowds)
The argument isn't even about EVIL tho really, I'll say this.... what a final by him and Take, not even joking that was probably EVIL's best singles match since his turn in 2020.

New Japan's boom period started because New Japan took a chance on a returning Okada from excursion, who funny enough had not even earned that spot comparative to what Tsuji, Uemura, and Shota have done since returning from excursion. Yet look at the paid dividends that leap of faith was for New Japan and how well it turned out. And why I say Okada didn't earn it, is that Tsuji, Uemura, Shota, and Ren have all main evented multiple times for big New Japan shows and all have knocked it out of the park one way or another. You can absolutely still have HoT and EVIL run rampant in New Japan while also committing to the younger guys, these two things are not mutually exclusive and in fact I agree with Khan in the sense that you can have this big bad org only for one of the Reiwa's to finally vanquish that threat. But guess what happened, Takeshita was the one to do it lol.

NJPW doing the Naito holding pattern on the Reiwas is just not going to pan out well in the long run. Further more the IWGP world belt has been booked like utter shit since it's inception and genuinely has the imbalance of a fucking television championship. Literally the only significantly lengthy run I can think of off hand was Sanadas and um yea that sucked.

I can have this feeling towards these booking decisions, while also recognizing that that was a killer g-1 final lol.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Lost me at daft for disagreeing . Not reading all that

 

[Comrade Khan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/njpw/s/bK7dEYq0cZ

Tsuji was KOd and ref made a call. Could be kayfabe

 

[Kairi HoHo]

Feel like Khan's just playing devil's advocate here, but you gotta just be daft if you think this was even remotely the right way to go about booking this G-1. The only real purpose this Takeshita win serves is to add significant juice to Takeshita vs Okada, which has been looming for quite some time now and inherently does not help NJPW in the long run.

Also to ask for a source for the fans cheering for EVIL over Take during the final, but hitting the classic HoT's good for business when the actual anecdotal evidence of New Japan's attendance being down tremendously is some real locked in stuff. (I know this obviously is more due to the fact that NJPW has lost Naito and Okada over the past 2 years; but if HoT was so great for business then they should fill in those shoes and draw crowds)
The argument isn't even about EVIL tho really, I'll say this.... what a final by him and Take, not even joking that was probably EVIL's best singles match since his turn in 2020.

New Japan's boom period started because New Japan took a chance on a returning Okada from excursion, who funny enough had not even earned that spot comparative to what Tsuji, Uemura, and Shota have done since returning from excursion. Yet look at the paid dividends that leap of faith was for New Japan and how well it turned out. And why I say Okada didn't earn it, is that Tsuji, Uemura, Shota, and Ren have all main evented multiple times for big New Japan shows and all have knocked it out of the park one way or another. You can absolutely still have HoT and EVIL run rampant in New Japan while also committing to the younger guys, these two things are not mutually exclusive and in fact I agree with Khan in the sense that you can have this big bad org only for one of the Reiwa's to finally vanquish that threat. But guess what happened, Takeshita was the one to do it lol.

NJPW doing the Naito holding pattern on the Reiwas is just not going to pan out well in the long run. Further more the IWGP world belt has been booked like utter shit since it's inception and genuinely has the imbalance of a fucking television championship. Literally the only significantly lengthy run I can think of off hand was Sanadas and um yea that sucked.

I can have this feeling towards these booking decisions, while also recognizing that that was a killer g-1 final lol.

Feel like Khan's just playing devil's advocate here, but you gotta just be daft if you think this was even remotely the right way to go about booking this G-1. The only real purpose this Takeshita win serves is to add significant juice to Takeshita vs Okada, which has been looming for quite some time now and inherently does not help NJPW in the long run.

Also to ask for a source for the fans cheering for EVIL over Take during the final, but hitting the classic HoT's good for business when the actual anecdotal evidence of New Japan's attendance being down tremendously is some real locked in stuff. (I know this obviously is more due to the fact that NJPW has lost Naito and Okada over the past 2 years; but if HoT was so great for business then they should fill in those shoes and draw crowds)
The argument isn't even about EVIL tho really, I'll say this.... what a final by him and Take, not even joking that was probably EVIL's best singles match since his turn in 2020.

New Japan's boom period started because New Japan took a chance on a returning Okada from excursion, who funny enough had not even earned that spot comparative to what Tsuji, Uemura, and Shota have done since returning from excursion. Yet look at the paid dividends that leap of faith was for New Japan and how well it turned out. And why I say Okada didn't earn it, is that Tsuji, Uemura, Shota, and Ren have all main evented multiple times for big New Japan shows and all have knocked it out of the park one way or another. You can absolutely still have HoT and EVIL run rampant in New Japan while also committing to the younger guys, these two things are not mutually exclusive and in fact I agree with Khan in the sense that you can have this big bad org only for one of the Reiwa's to finally vanquish that threat. But guess what happened, Takeshita was the one to do it lol.

NJPW doing the Naito holding pattern on the Reiwas is just not going to pan out well in the long run. Further more the IWGP world belt has been booked like utter shit since it's inception and genuinely has the imbalance of a fucking television championship. Literally the only significantly lengthy run I can think of off hand was Sanadas and um yea that sucked.

I can have this feeling towards these booking decisions, while also recognizing that that was a killer g-1 final lol.

Yeah I still get nightmares of when Shingo was Champion during Covid time and instead of pushing his greatness to the Moon we got Okada acting like a baby coming out and calling himself the real Champion disrespecting Shingo in every way. Man he's a question after Ibushi beat Okada and became Champion what the hell happened there he should of been the next guy that could of been testing these young guns within the Company like Tsuji, Shota, Uemura etc right now.

 

[Brett]

https://www.reddit.com/r/njpw/s/bK7dEYq0cZ

Tsuji was KOd and ref made a call. Could be kayfabe

Lost me at daft for disagreeing . Not reading all that

Lmaooo, yea that was unneccesary saying that I'll admit, it's just my EVIL derangement syndrome getting the best of me. Also thinking about it now, I'd love for that to have been kayfabe just based on the fact the ref called for the bell while Yota was in a sharpshooter. I'd love for Gedo to have been talking about this finish with someone and comparing it to the screwhob