Shelton Benjobber

[seX-Power]

The incentive to make this thread came watching this week's Smackdown when the United States Champion Shelton Benjamin lost to Hurricane Helms by a clean pinfall. And let's face it, he has been buried like this throughout his entire reign. And this can't go on forever, something needs to be done. After all the pointless losses and feuds gone nowhere he just looks like a crap champion. He did basically nothing after beating Matt Hardy and looked like a transitional champion from the beginning. Then he was involved in the scramble and lost to the main eventers he was working with at the time. Then came the pointless feud with R-Truth where he lost cleanly like, three times, and in the end nothing came of it. That feud, imo, was the ime for him to lose his title. Now he just got beaten clean by a guy who just returned last week, and he'll have to defend his title against him next week. Shelton really needs to be booked better imo, and I think he needs to get rid of the title. As much as I like the guy, I think that it will now be too hard to make him return to a dominant champion and the best option now would be having him lose the title. He is also making the championship look shit in the process.

What are your thoughts on the way Shelton is being jobbed, and how the US title is being made out to be?

What are your thoughts on how to solve this?

 

[MikeRaw]

I'd rather see him be competitive, just like most people.
Look, I will never agree with people who say he should be a main eventer. That's just plain bullshit. However, he has the makings of a credible mid card champ.
But he is being buried too much. They should really be using him in competitive back and forth feuds where he wins as much, if not more, than he loses.

 

[Headfirst For Hardcore]

Benjamin will always be a good option for multi person matches or as a credible midcard belt contender, but not as a champion. He isn't that good of a personality to put a belt on, and it looks like he failed again this time. I wouldn't blame it on him having no competition, it's just him being boring when he's not jumping off of a ladder. He doesn't really get heat either, it's more of just a "boo" instead of "I hate you" type of heat.

 

[chessarmy]

I say, repackage Shelton completely. Start from scratch, turn him babyface, give him an actual gimmick instead of him being obsessed with gold. Then give him a solid push and let him develop actual mic skills. He can turn into a good mid carder, something Smackdown! needs.

As far as him jobbing, I agree. Shelton is going nowhere, which is why I thought what I said above is a good idea

 

[seX-Power]

^ I liked his Momma gimmick but not a lot of others seem to agree on that one. Hey, it gave him heat, a few good feuds and a good mid card belt run. If only he had something like that happen to him again.

 

[Hometown Kid]

I say, repackage Shelton completely. Start from scratch, turn him babyface, give him an actual gimmick instead of him being obsessed with gold. Then give him a solid push and let him develop actual mic skills. He can turn into a good mid carder, something Smackdown! needs.

As far as him jobbing, I agree. Shelton is going nowhere, which is why I thought what I said above is a good idea

Yes!! His only shot is to turn face or he's completely screwed. Personally I would love him to at least get a shot. It's honestly some kind of miracle that he's still with the company with the way he's been treated. I think he's actually pretty underrated on personality and mic skills, it's just...he doesn't have a good sounding voice. He can't really cut a smooth promo with the gruffness of it...right now Shelton kinda reminds me of Edge 5 years ago where he was just stumbling over his words and whatnot...and cut this "Gold" stuff out as well. And move him to Raw. He'll never succeed on SD.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Shelton has been jobbed...to ECW Champion Matt Hardy, direct Title challengers and WWE Champion HHH.

If by booked better you mean defeat someone holding a belt above his, you're crazy.

Like I said, yes, Shelton loses, but he always recovers. R-Truth beat him twice so that their feud got heat. In the end, Shelton got the win. That helped both men. Now, Helms defeat him and both will meet for the belt. It makes sense.

 

[Headfirst For Hardcore]

Yes!! His only shot is to turn face or he's completely screwed. Personally I would love him to at least get a shot. It's honestly some kind of miracle that he's still with the company with the way he's been treated. I think he's actually pretty underrated on personality and mic skills, it's just...he doesn't have a good sounding voice. He can't really cut a smooth promo with the gruffness of it...right now Shelton kinda reminds me of Edge 5 years ago where he was just stumbling over his words and whatnot...and cut this "Gold" stuff out as well. And move him to Raw. He'll never succeed on SD.

what? I just read a post on Shelton's voice, that's pretty weird.

Why would they put Shelton as a face? That would make him more generic than before. I don't see him striving with another gimmick, because there's nothing that sticks about him except his athleticism, and that's been done plenty of times. You can't really teach someone personality, people just have it or they don't.

Start from scratch, turn him babyface, give him an actual gimmick instead of him being obsessed with gold.

are they going to make him a black Randy Savage ripoff, a king, a superhero, a Muslim or a shark? that's a "gimmick"

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Shelton was over as a face because he was something new when they originally pushed him. People looked at him and were like, "Yeah, he's a good athlete who's exciting." He can't run off that anymore. He needs a real personality, and it's just something Shelton doesn't have.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Yeah, babyface, because that worked so good the last time. And don't come here and tell me "he's not being booked strong enough"...because he went over Cage, Jericho, Triple H during 2004, on 2005 was the shining star at WM21, went over Y2J again. Never on that time people gave a shit about him.

Then give him a solid push and let him develop actual mic skills

Yeah, maybe they can send him to ECW, push him in there more than the champion himself, end the streak of a promising star as Kofi Kingston, get drafted to a bigger brand, let's say SD, let him cut promos for half a year before his matches, most of them wins. Then, have him beat Hardy clean non title and clean again in PPV for the belt. From there, you book him to get the best out of future main eventer Jeff Hardy, book him on the brand's multimen main event and give him a spot then on a Survivor Series team.

Yeah, maybe that could work

 

[seX-Power]

Shelton has been jobbed...to ECW Champion Matt Hardy, direct Title challengers and WWE Champion HHH.

If by booked better you mean defeat someone holding a belt above his, you're crazy.

Like I said, yes, Shelton loses, but he always recovers. R-Truth beat him twice so that their feud got heat. In the end, Shelton got the win. That helped both men. Now, Helms defeat him and both will meet for the belt. It makes sense.

Face it, right now he loses more than he wins. That shouldn't happen to a champion. Sure, he loses to people higher up than him, but if he never actually beats anybody higher up than him, than it won't do him any good in the short term.

I also doubt the Shelton/R-Truth feud helped either man. The feud had basically no heat and neither man came out of it more over. Shelton is now losing to Hurricane Helms and R-Truth just lost to Dolph Ziggler and is back to beating jobbers shifty on Smackdown.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

R-Truth lost by count out BTW

Oh, and yeah, he lost to Helms. IT IS TO START A DAMN FEUD. Tell me, if not Hurricane Helms, which other face midcard can challenge Shelton Benjamin?

And again, he has lost as of late because he has been put with people higher on the card. He lost in a tag match to R-Truth...then elimianted him at SS. They are equal.

He lost to ECW Champ Matt Hardy. HE HAS TO DO SO. Matt is above him.

Besides, it says something that he is actually being put in matches with talents above him.

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

He lost to ECW Champ Matt Hardy. HE HAS TO DO SO. Matt is above him.

I'd say the US Championship is just as good as the ECW Championship.

The loss to Matt was needless anyway. What does it acheive for anyone?

 

[seX-Power]

R-Truth lost by count out BTW

And?

Oh, and yeah, he lost to Helms. IT IS TO START A DAMN FEUD. Tell me, if not Hurricane Helms, which other face midcard can challenge Shelton Benjamin?

It's just that, most of the time he loses, it isn't to start a feud. Yeah, it will be now, and I can only hope that it will last longer than 2 weeks and can be considered a feud. If they have a match at the Royal Rumble, then I will admit I was wrong and something would actually come of this. But as of now, I doubt this will amount to anything apart from having Shelton beat him in 2 weeks time. If this happens, then I consider letting the champ lose clean pointless, a waste.

And again, he has lost as of late because he has been put with people higher on the card. He lost in a tag match to R-Truth...then elimianted him at SS. They are equal.

He lost in the tag match, eliminated R-Truth, then was eliminated himself. Talking about Shelton as a person and not him relating to Truth, that is 2 'losses' to 1 'victory'. In the tag match he lost to R-Truth and Fu Naki. So much higher than him on the card.

He lost to ECW Champ Matt Hardy. HE HAS TO DO SO. Matt is above him.

I know, but then he can't just keep facing those above him and losing, there's no point in that. He needs to face somebody on his level, and have it go into a feud. A proper feud, not a '5 matches, 1 promo, PPV preshow climax' feud. If he ends up having a fued with Helms then yay, I may be worng. But if Shelton just beats him in 1 or 2 weeks, then the fact he lost clean in the first place is pointless.

Besides, it says something that he is actually being put in matches with talents above him.

But then again, it doesn't say much when he loses every time. I mean, that wouldn't be a problem, if he wasn't the freaking champ.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

1) It hyped SS team match. BTW, I dont think he came out looking weak from that lose. They wrestled for 15 minutes and he dominated for mostly all the match.

2) You see the ECW belt as equal to the US title as an IWC member. To the casual fan, and as the WWE expect them to portray it, it is the top belt of a brand and almost a World Belt (technically you can still use the Royal Rumble to challenge for the ECW championship), so yeah, Hardy is above him.