September 11th

[Flair for The Gold]

It was certainly a sad day, and it was obviously awful as to what happened. I personally know a few people who were affected by this and it IS very sad.

But for everything else, I pretty much agree with Monkeystyle. The thing is this-We Americans don't know what its like to live in a war stricken country. If you compare us to some of the world, our quality of life, and safety is unbelievable. Thats why I don't make a big deal at all about this day. This may sound harsh, but 9/11 was just a speck of sand in a huge beach compared to what some other people have to go through every day.

One threatening attack on US soil in the entire history of our nation is pretty damn good considering a lot of other happenings in history.

 

[monkeystyle]

If someone flew a plane into Maple Leaf Gardens or The Molson Centre all our Canadian friends would be up in arms.

You know what? I don't expect many people outside of the US to care. Terrorists attacks happen all over the world everyday. We in the US are fortunate we have only been attacked twice (Pearl Harbor isn't even in our mainland).

I expect them to care about as much as I care when there is a terror attack in Spain, or an earthquake in Japan, or flooding in Thailand. I'll say, "oh, thats sad, I wish there was something I could do" Then I forget about it in a week.

If an air plane crashed into maple leaf gardens or the ACC I might just do a happy dance of joy

But I do see where you're coming from, I would be up in arms and with very good reason. Today ought to be a day where people remember the deceased, instead its not. For most people it is a day that will be remembered at least during our time as the day that large scale war came back to our planet. Its unfortunate, but you can blame your government for that. I'm not going to write a long indictment of the current administration, but there was a right way to handle that situation, and a wrong way. Unfortunately by choosing the wrong way, the meaning of what today should be has been perverted.

 

[JJdaBuckeye]

what would the right way have been? Ask them to stop and give them a cookie? We could have done that with England (Didnt). Or Japan (Didnt). Or Germany(Didnt). Why do it with Osama or Afghanistan?

 

[Dairydude]

the way I see it, America got what it had coming for a long ass time and it put most of you back in your place.


Your policy of "we don't like you so die for it" finally bit you in the ass and whilst it shouldn't have taken thousands of lives for it to happen, it did and the best you can do is learn from it

 

[CenaMark54]

the way I see it, America got what it had coming for a long ass time and it put most of you back in your place.


Your policy of "we don't like you so die for it" finally bit you in the ass and whilst it shouldn't have taken thousands of lives for it to happen, it did and the best you can do is learn from it

I'm sorry, but your an idiot. We had it coming? What did the people in those buildings do to deserve death?

 

[monkeystyle]

what would the right way have been? Ask them to stop and give them a cookie? We could have done that with England (Didnt). Or Japan (Didnt). Or Germany(Didnt). Why do it with Osama or Afghanistan?

Your first 3 examples are invalid as they were each an entirely different situation. In this case your country was attacked by a group known as Al Qaeda, which was funded by many organizations, most notably the Taliban. At the time, the Taliban controlled Afghanistan, and since they were directly complicit with the initial attack, the idea to attack Afghanistan was based mostly in good faith. They were to crush the Taliban, seek out as much of Al Qaeda as they could (there is no chance in hell that they will ever wipe out that organization, or any organization completely) and ultimately catch Osama Bin Laden.

That was fine. It sucked that it had to happen but it was fine, and I understood the motivation. However, they decided to use the symbols of 9/11 and whatnot to bend the mission towards their own objectives. That was the wrong decision. The right way would've been to not split their forces, they would've made a better global impression by directing all their forces in Afghanistan instead of using 9/11 for their own selfish desires.

 

[Dairydude]

I'm sorry, but your an idiot. We had it coming? What did the people in those buildings do to deserve death?

Nothing, but the people they voted into office managed to piss off the rest of the world real nice

 

[monkeystyle]

I'm sorry, but your an idiot. We had it coming? What did the people in those buildings do to deserve death?

That's my thing too. If they had've driven the planes into Quantico, or Langley or some shit like that I wouldn't have had any kind of a problem. At least that would've been a legitimate target.

That was the problem I had with Tim McVeigh too.

 

[JJdaBuckeye]

the way I see it, America got what it had coming for a long ass time and it put most of you back in your place.


Your policy of "we don't like you so die for it" finally bit you in the ass and whilst it shouldn't have taken thousands of lives for it to happen, it did and the best you can do is learn from it

and you think this why? because you hate americans? your Blue...

our policy of "we don't like you do die for it" comes from where? because we joined against Hitler and Japan in WWII after getting attacked by Japan? Joining into WWI? Ohh... Maybe the Revolutionary War. Or was that just a fluke? Yes, all those innocent people deserved to die because we broke off from England, what... 200 years ago? Yeah. That makes sense.

Seriously, where do you get that from? Ive never heard of that being our policy.

Put us back into our place. Place as what? VICTIMS? Angry?

Seriously, get your head on straight, and your facts straight before you go saying untrue shit.

Monk: I understand where your coming from, but the Pearl Harbor bombing did have some relevence. Attacked when doing nothing that basically provoked an attack.

However, using 9/11 for our own selfish desires? What were our selfish desries? To destroy (or partially, like you said, no way we'd have been able to destroy them completely) a terrorist group so that future attacks wouldnt happen? Thats completely selfish. Next we're going to give arms to defend 3rd world countries who are being attacked by the likes of Iraq or others. completely selfish.

 

[MattHardyV1]

Ok we need to fucking move on?!?!?!?!? If you think that way than you need some fucking help....This is the same as pearl harbor...or any historical event...this IS history...how can we just fucking forget about it.....It was sick,twisted and useless...and still to this day we are suffering from it....People are still in Iraq fighting.....

 

[Dairydude]

Seriously, where do you get that from? Ive never heard of that being our policy.

Put us back into our place. Place as what? VICTIMS? Angry?

Seriously, get your head on straight, and your facts straight before you go saying untrue shit.

I love how i can explain my point before being hung drawn and quartered by you.


Easiest example is the colonization of America
you landed, and found the NATIVE Americans.
You didn't like them, so you classed them as Savages and killed them all.
Literary, damn near all of them hunted down and butchered for being different

 

[monkeystyle]

Ok we need to fucking move on?!?!?!?!? If you think that way than you need some fucking help....This is the same as pearl harbor...or any historical event...this IS history...how can we just fucking forget about it.....It was sick,twisted and useless...and still to this day we are suffering from it....People are still in Iraq fighting.....

Yeah, you need to move on, not forget. Nobody said forget so settle down compadre, take your pills and chill out.

Also, if you want to have any kind of credibilty don't mention Iraq, okay?

 

[PeepShow]

OK, lets not turn this shit into a argument. If you want to do that shit, then take it to Mikes HIAT version. This is a spot to post where you were and shit.

 

[monkeystyle]

I love how i can explain my point before being hung drawn and quartered by you.


Easiest example is the colonization of America
you landed, and found the NATIVE Americans.
You didn't like them, so you classed them as Savages and killed them all.
Literary, damn near all of them hunted down and butchered for being different

Uhh, that was technically the British. That's first of all. Second of all that has happened throughout history, its hardly an American thing.

But you have no business in this discussion if you have no idea what you are speaking of.

 

[Dairydude]

if you don't move on from this, then you're screwing yourself over right now.

You don't see people openly weeping on the 7/7 anniversary do you?
No, because we've had our mourning and now we've moved on after learning our lessons