Nia Jax leaving WWE?

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I tend to agree with you, but in this case not... Nia is entitled and ungrateful, her booking has been alright and a lot better than most of the women in WWE.

Yeah she was getting a decent push for a minute there. Seems like a slap in the faces of the other women in the company to be unhappy with it.
 

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I tend to agree with you, but in this case not... Nia is entitled and ungrateful, her booking has been alright and a lot better than most of the women in WWE.
I already said that she shouldn't be upset over anything, given the opportunities she's had in the company in my previous posts. The thing I was trying to get at was that I don't necessarily think that the wrestlers themselves, like Nia, walk up to management and go "look, I'm related to the Rock.. so put some respeck on my name". Imo it's the company that does it to boost ones credibility as a performer/character
 

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I'd go as far to say we don't really know everything that goes on behind the scenes, so in all honesty, we don't know who is playing the relationship card or not. Yeah, the WWE does it themselves, but I am sure that plenty of the wrestlers do too. But we don't really know.

The idea that a wrestler should know their place and role and keep quiet is asinine. It's their career and how they are treated in the WWE will directly affect how they might be viewed in post WWE careers. If they don't like their place or their booking, they should feel free to speak out. If fans don't like it, you're not forced to listen to it. You're not forced to read it. However, they have every right to say whatever the hell they want about it and I support that.

If Nia feels her WWE career is not going to the way she wants it to, she has every right to bitch about it AS MUCH as the WWE has every right to book her to lose. She is not entitled to a good push. She is not entitled to a championship reign. She is not entitled to even be on TV. What she is entitled to is to express her pleasure or displeasure in such and we are entitled to ignore it if it bothers us.

Personally, I could see why she is upset. They push her as a monster who loses all the time. They keep on making her Alex Bliss's sidekick. Hell, that alone would piss me off. If she thinks she would fare better in other places for a lower paycheck, she is entitled to do that as well once her contract is over.
 
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Nia Jax needs to know her place on the roster. Same as Neville. Not everyone gets their way and pushed how they want. I'm sure 95% of the roster would be preferred to be pushed harder cuz only about 5% of the roster can be either champions or top guys/girls. Everyone needs to chill out and know there fucking place in the show, not everyone gets to play lead roles

If it was Roman Reigns being booked this way and he was complaining about it, you'd be supporting him completely. You would never say he should know his place. It's clear because you mentioned Neville, who in the past you have criticized similarity that it is just a matter of playing favorites.

While it is true that not everyone can be at the top in WWE, not everyone has to accept that. There are wrestlers who are obviously happy with that and they do their job and accept their paycheck. That's respectable. If they don't accept it, they are welcome to sit at home or seek their fortunes elsewhere. But they have every right to complain about it, they have every right to be unhappy about it and they have every right to not "know their place on the roster" if they are unhappy with it. As I said, they can seek their fortunes elsewhere. They can give up the much bigger WWE salary to make less money elsewhere to get a championship run. But one thing they DON'T have to do is know their place and not complain.
 

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But they have every right to complain about it, they have every right to be unhappy about it and they have every right to not "know their place on the roster" if they are unhappy with it. As I said, they can seek their fortunes elsewhere. They can give up the much bigger WWE salary to make less money elsewhere to get a championship run. But one thing they DON'T have to do is know their place and not complain.
But essentially the WWE is like a giant machine and every part needs to function
and "know its place" so the greater machine can function right?

I mean every business/corporation/sports team/organization has a pecking
order right?

You could even make a case that this very forum has a pecking order with
newer members expected to "know their place"

It may also come down to the individual's own patience and understanding.
I mean look at Naomi...it took her 8 years to get a title reign (which was an awful
reign but it still counts) and Natalya had to wait 7 years between her title reigns
while possibly being one of...if not the best (female) in-ring worker in the company.
 

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But essentially the WWE is like a giant machine and every part needs to function
and "know its place" so the greater machine can function right?

I mean every business/corporation/sports team/organization has a pecking
order right?

You could even make a case that this very forum has a pecking order with
newer members expected to "know their place"

It may also come down to the individual's own patience and understanding.
I mean look at Naomi...it took her 8 years to get a title reign (which was an awful
reign but it still counts) and Natalya had to wait 7 years between her title reigns
while possibly being one of...if not the best (female) in-ring worker in the company.

I didn't say that every business didn't work like that. I, in fact, support that it does. I support that it has a pecking order and I support that not everyone can be at the top. What I do not support is that people who don't like it should just shut up and accept it. If they are not willing to shut up and accept it, they are entitled to leave the job and go work elsewhere. But one thing they do have the right to do, as every single human being on this earth has the right to do (in my mind) is bitch about it if they don't like it.

If a business works as a machine, then it's better to have people working those parts that enjoy working there. So let Nia go work elsewhere if she is unhappy. Having her working unhappy isn't good for her and isn't good for WWE. There are hundreds of women who would love to be in her spot. Let them take her spot, let her bitch and go elsewhere. That is what I am saying.
 
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If it is as black and white as they say, then I have to say she needs to suck it up if she wants to be in the company but it is hardly ever black and white with the WWE. A lot of wrestlers go years with being treated like crap mentally, medically, and physically in this company. She has every right to walk if she isn't happy but I would hope it has a lot more to do with things outside of her booking.

In terms of "knowing their place", I see it like this - They all have different roles and different areas to fill. That is their placement. If they are not happy with where they are placed, yes they can complain but that comes with the territory of this company. A lot of what they do isn't fair and is debatable to us but you have to play the role you are given to the best you can. If you are not happy, why complain? Just walk. That is what Neville did and I don't blame him for it.

I could compare this to any other job and say complaining don't get you a raise, hard work and hustle does but we know WWE don't care and will do what they want.
 
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If it was Roman Reigns being booked this way and he was complaining about it, you'd be supporting him completely. You would never say he should know his place. It's clear because you mentioned Neville, who in the past you have criticized similarity that it is just a matter of playing favorites.

While it is true that not everyone can be at the top in WWE, not everyone has to accept that. There are wrestlers who are obviously happy with that and they do their job and accept their paycheck. That's respectable. If they don't accept it, they are welcome to sit at home or seek their fortunes elsewhere. But they have every right to complain about it, they have every right to be unhappy about it and they have every right to not "know their place on the roster" if they are unhappy with it. As I said, they can seek their fortunes elsewhere. They can give up the much bigger WWE salary to make less money elsewhere to get a championship run. But one thing they DON'T have to do is know their place and not complain.

Of course they can speak up and voice their dissatisfaction, but walking out before TV is just unacceptable. If I walked out of my job cuz I was unhappy with whatever position I was in at work then guess what? I would get fired, which is exactly what anyone else who is in the WWE deserves if they walk out before TV cuz they aren't happy with their place on the show.
 

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I didn't say that every business didn't work like that. I, in fact, support that it does. I support that it has a pecking order and I support that not everyone can be at the top. What I do not support is that people who don't like it should just shut up and accept it. If they are not willing to shut up and accept it, they are entitled to leave the job and go work elsewhere. But one thing they do have the right to do, as every single human being on this earth has the right to do (in my mind) is bitch about it if they don't like it.

If a business works as a machine, then it's better to have people working those parts that enjoy working there. So let Nia go work elsewhere if she is unhappy. Having her working unhappy isn't good for her and isn't good for WWE. There are hundreds of women who would love to be in her spot. Let them take her spot, let her bitch and go elsewhere. That is what I am saying.
Fair call...

If you are not happy, why complain? Just walk. That is what Neville did and I don't blame him for it.
That's the endgame...don't bother talking...get to walking...

And thumbs up cat is here...Yay!
 
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Fair call...


That's the endgame...don't bother talking...get to walking...

And thumbs up cat is here...Yay!

Well keep in mind, my main point was they have every right to complain, but with that right comes the possibility of letting the door hit their ass on the way out.
 

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Nia Jax would be an absolutely fucking nobody if it wasn't for WWE giving her an opportunity to become a famous wrestler. WWE gave Neville the platform to become known by millions of more wrestling fans. Them leaving before TV cuz they don't agree with creative is selfish on their parts. That is just straight up disrespect to Vince McMahon, and you don't CROSS THE BOSS :vince3: