Dolph Ziggler - Underused

[Derek G]

DZ is sooo underused and his gimmicks just didn't not work at all, I think he should leave WWE and just work for indys or TNA , it would be better for him.

If he still stays with WWe, he has to change his gimmick ( something like the crow sting or AJ styles ( the aces and eights story line) as he is pretty stale now, what do you guys think?

 

[Solid Snake]

TNA is an ever sinking ship so no to that.

As for leaving the WWE, it has been rumored on and off that he was leaving since like 2013. If he wanted to leave he would have by now.
I agree that he needs to update himself (gimmick,ect) if he remains in the WWE. I think he is better suited for the Indy scene tho

 

[Doxo]

The day Dolph Ziggler leaves WWE will be a party at my house. Dude's career has been dead since 2012 and he does nothing but take up space. His whole gimmick is that he's a great wrestler and he doesn't even do that right

 

[Solid Snake]

The day Dolph Ziggler leaves WWE will be a party at my house. Dude's career has been dead since 2012 and he does nothing but take up space. His whole gimmick is that he's a great wrestler and he doesn't even do that right

WWE is to blame for at least half of the issues with DZ. The dude can wrestler but never got a proper chance to improve charisma wise nor the opportunity to have a legit clean swap into a new gimmick. He went from being what? A cheerleader, to what he is now?

 

[Derek G]

Bad wrestler ? who do you reckon is good then?

 

[Doxo]

What a stooge thing to say. The dude is in your avy and here you are roasting the guys nuts.

Ziggler had swagger in '09, then again in '13 with AJ as his old lady.
He's a bad wrestler but his confidence gets shaken too easy. That was his downfall.... that and the fact he's a mark for his own workrate.

Yep, I changed my Avatar after that rant because I thought I'd be pretty funny

Bad wrestler ? who do you reckon is good then?

To be fair to Dolph, he isn't a bad wrestler. I guess what I was referring more to is that his gimmick now is "I'm one of the greatest wrestlers in the world" when he isn't even in the top five of Smackdown. Guys like Styles, Owens, Zayn, Nakamura (obvious), Usos, New Day (less obvious but still true), ect. are way better than him. On Raw, you've got the obvious answers like Rollins, Cesaro, Cena, less obvious ones like Jason Jordan and Revival, and on NXT you've got basically half the roster. Hell, there are even a ton of 205 Live guys who are better than Ziggler

I guess my main gripe is is that he rarely entertains me with his character and rarely entertains me with his matches, so I see no purpose with him. The only things I've ever liked of him was him vs Ambrose, him vs Miz, and the Miz fued. I know that there's a lot of people who like him, but to me Ziggler is like a foot fetish - it doesn't do it for me

 

[Solid Snake]

Ziggler is like a foot fetish - it doesn't do it for me

Wonder why @CM Punk isn't a bigger DZ fan then...

But to speak more on what you said, I feel DZ was at his best when he had Vicky as his manager. He is great in ring, knows how to sell, but he is just no good on the mic. I was a fan of his for a few year, I did like him but you can't do much with stale milk. He needs to be rebranded or walk away.

 

[Derek G]

DZ is quite stale now , why can't he just be like Drew, Cody they all leave wwe, make their names in the indys and wait for WWE to call them and push them to the moon?

Drew is the best example......

 

[Derek G]

Wonder why @CM Punk isn't a bigger DZ fan then...

But to speak more on what you said, I feel DZ was at his best when he had Vicky as his manager. He is great in ring, knows how to sell, but he is just no good on the mic. I was a fan of his for a few year, I did like him but you can't do much with stale milk. He needs to be rebranded or walk away.

I would be interested to see him a an anti hero gimmick like the crow sting or aj styles ( the aces and eights era) in TNA

 

[Solid Snake]

I would be interested to see him a an anti hero gimmick like the crow sting or aj styles ( the aces and eights era) in TNA

At this point, him turning into a heel anything would be an improvement. WWE has all but neutered the guy's career.

 

[Derek G]

Yep, I changed my Avatar after that rant because I thought I'd be pretty funny

To be fair to Dolph, he isn't a bad wrestler. I guess what I was referring more to is that his gimmick now is "I'm one of the greatest wrestlers in the world" when he isn't even in the top five of Smackdown. Guys like Styles, Owens, Zayn, Nakamura (obvious), Usos, New Day (less obvious but still true), ect. are way better than him. On Raw, you've got the obvious answers like Rollins, Cesaro, Cena, less obvious ones like Jason Jordan and Revival, and on NXT you've got basically half the roster. Hell, there are even a ton of 205 Live guys who are better than Ziggler

I guess my main gripe is is that he rarely entertains me with his character and rarely entertains me with his matches, so I see no purpose with him. The only things I've ever liked of him was him vs Ambrose, him vs Miz, and the Miz fued. I know that there's a lot of people who like him, but to me Ziggler is like a foot fetish - it doesn't do it for me

I think DZ can be the top 5 in smackdown, I really think that Zayn is a bit overrated, i know he can wrestle, he can sell, he's good on the mic ...but there's something in him that I can't picture him as a champion

 

[Mr. Roman Empire]

Zigglers best option in WWE would be to find a tag team partner. Someone like Sami Zayn or Tye Dillinger. His run as a singles competitor is worn out. He's a HBK knock off. He's a cocky dude, with not much success to back it up

 

[Brother Loathe]

I really don't see why Dolph just doesn't leave and either try different companies or just leaves wrestling for a few years, I think Dolph's great, but it's shit seeing s great wrestler so miserable and nothing to do, Punk all over again.

 

[Snowman1]

Bray Wyatt Syndrome. Ziggler would be an okay Bullet Club add

Think his biggest downfall was that he stood out with his athletic in-ring style a few years ago, but with the vastly improved roster he feels like another guy.

 

[Nikki Nitro]

As much as I like Dolph... I agree, His gimmick just seems to be the same.. I liked the segment he and Vikki did awhile back