Former pro wrestlers sue WWE over claims of neurological damage

[Stopspot]

Shane Douglas had 2 stints in the WWE, and Sabu had 1 stint in WWE.

Also, this case will go to nothing but loss for the people involved. Many of them, if not already, will be blackballed from the WWE. And WWE has these guys listed as Independent Contractors, something that these guys, agreed to.

Thing is. This is the largest lawsuit of this kind against WWE. IF it turns out that this is the right amount of people to make it count as a class action lawsuit. The whole "independent contractor" bit goes out the window. WWE already does enough stuff for the independent contractor part to be in all but name. If this goes class action any competent lawyer would have a field day with it

 

[edge4ever]

Lol fuck these 50 plaintiffs and their bs. You are responsible and accountable for your actions. If they didn't like it, they should've tried another career or company. Stupid lawsuit. WWE is doing what they have always done... Sure, They're not perfect, but they in no way forced anyone to do anything lol

 

[Stopspot]

Saying that WWE has never forced anyone to do anything is probably pretty naive.

All in on people going at WWE for stuff like this. Vince has gotten away with stuff like this far too many times. Even if they don't win the case it should push WWE towards furthering and improving on their employee benefits and medical programs

 

[Aster Davis]

I just can't see this going anywhere. Obviously some of the 50+ wrestlers are just looking for some money. Also, didn't Billy Graham sign a legends contract less than a year ago?

 

[edge4ever]

Saying that WWE has never forced anyone to do anything is probably pretty naive.

All in on people going at WWE for stuff like this. Vince has gotten away with stuff like this far too many times. Even if they don't win the case it should push WWE towards furthering and improving on their employee benefits and medical programs

You're for having guys that usually make millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars get treated a little better with benefits? Like 50 guys out of no where file lawsuits? They're contractors and that's how shit usually works with contractors. I'm not saying WWE couldn't maybe help them get a discount on their insurance or anything, but to say that WWE should change its ways and provide all these things for all their stars, etc., is a little silly.

Setting The Record Straight



It's not naive.... WWE doesn't own anyone. They simply dictate their careers, because their character is a product of WWE. That makes total sense. They don't force anyone to do anything. You can quit a job whenever. Take some accountability, don't always blame "the man."

 

[Stopspot]

You're for having guys that usually make millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars get treated a little better with benefits? Like 50 guys out of no where file lawsuits? They're contractors and that's how shit usually works with contractors. I'm not saying WWE couldn't maybe help them get a discount on their insurance or anything, but to say that WWE should change its ways and provide all these things for all their stars, etc., is a little silly.

Setting The Record Straight



It's not naive.... WWE doesn't own anyone. They simply dictate their careers, because their character is a product of WWE. That makes total sense. They don't force anyone to do anything. You can quit a job whenever. Take some accountability, don't always blame "the man."

Only the guys in the top echelon make millions or hundred of thousands of dollars.

Most WWE midcarders don't make that much money after detracting travel, lodging and food costs. all things they have to cover themselves. There's a reason wrestlers are thrifty

I don't see it as silly at all to expect WWE to have equal treatment plans for their employees. Because that's what they are. The "independent contractor" part is just a name. Multiple lawyers have pointed out that WWE wrestlers cannot be classed as contractors but should be classed as employees.

I guess I just hold WWE to the standards I have grown up with rather than the by comparison shitty American ones.

In my country every employee, no matter what level they are employed at or how much they are paid. Has the same benefits. I have the same health insurance as my boss does through work if I get injured working. The same retirement plan, the works.

As for forcing people or not. Ask Trish Stratus how she felt about the whole "perving with Vince" bit. She was forced into that storyline but had to go through with it because Vince has a fucking monopoly on wrestling. At the time there was no other place to work and make a living wrestling, especially for a woman.

 

[edge4ever]

Only the guys in the top echelon make millions or hundred of thousands of dollars.

Most WWE midcarders don't make that much money after detracting travel, lodging and food costs. all things they have to cover themselves. There's a reason wrestlers are thrifty

I don't see it as silly at all to expect WWE to have equal treatment plans for their employees. Because that's what they are. The "independent contractor" part is just a name. Multiple lawyers have pointed out that WWE wrestlers cannot be classed as contractors but should be classed as employees.

I guess I just hold WWE to the standards I have grown up with rather than the by comparison shitty American ones.

In my country every employee, no matter what level they are employed at or how much they are paid. Has the same benefits. I have the same health insurance as my boss does through work if I get injured working. The same retirement plan, the works.

As for forcing people or not. Ask Trish Stratus how she felt about the whole "perving with Vince" bit. She was forced into that storyline but had to go through with it because Vince has a fucking monopoly on wrestling. At the time there was no other place to work and make a living wrestling, especially for a woman.

Adam rose last stated salary was 165,000 a year. And he's a jobber....you're missing the point still.

WWE has 650 employees with benefits that work with the corporate office. I think they have 125 contractors, roughly, and the benefits don't really exist for then, because that's how it works with contractors. Idk how else to explain it to you. Again, they can do things to be more "generous," but it's not an evil company because of this.

Now you're getting off topic and starting to discuss "shitty American policies" and turning this into which nation has better plans for what.... It's not even worth getting into that off topic debate with you... That's like saying because your country likes soccer that "shitty American sports" should partake of this because soccer is better and your country clearly has a better sport (it's silly).

Aren't you from Sweden? Lol

She still should've quit and didn't have to stay. Take accountability. Quit blaming Vince for everything because he's not more like Sweden and has wrestling by the balls. Lol

 

[Stopspot]

Adam rose last stated salary was 165,000 a year. And he's a jobber....you're missing the point still.

WWE has 650 employees with benefits that work with the corporate office. I think they have 125 contractors, roughly, and the benefits don't really exist for then, because that's how it works with contractors. Idk how else to explain it to you. Again, they can do things to be more "generous," but it's not an evil company because of this.

Now you're getting off topic and starting to discuss "shitty American policies" and turning this into which nation has better plans for what.... It's not even worth getting into that off topic debate with you... That's like saying because your country likes soccer that "shitty American sports" should partake of this because soccer is better and your country clearly has a better sport (it's silly).

Aren't you from Sweden? Lol

She still should've quit and didn't have to stay. Take accountability. Quit blaming Vince for everything because he's not more like Sweden and has wrestling by the balls. Lol

What's wrong with being from Sweden?

 

[edge4ever]

What's wrong with being from Sweden?

Idk... You said "shitty American policies" and brought up how fantastic your countries plans are, despite a collapse coming, and raved about it all, getting way off topic. If you think Vince should change policies simply because of Sweden, that's insane

 

[Stopspot]

Idk... You said "shitty American policies" and brought up how fantastic your countries plans are, despite a collapse coming, and raved about it all, getting way off topic. If you think Vince should change policies simply because of Sweden, that's insane

But you're right that this is not the topic for this type of discussion. And I don't think either of us are educated enough to truly discuss it in detail. GDPs and such could be discussed in other threads

But the entire "independent contractor" thing is baffling to me since that's not how it works over here. You're either employed or self employed. Even consultants and such are either employed or self employed, and fall under whatever benefits package that applies at wherever they are consulting whilst there.

 

[Krendall]

They don't force anyone to do anything. You can quit a job whenever.

Technically, yes. Realistically, telling someone to do something or that person will be fired would usually be considered "forcing."

 

[Ellis Sullivan]

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